Var debate 2019/20

[give it to gordon]

Just seen the highlights of the dippers game, it showed them going straight up on a counter attack and scoring after what should have been a penalty to Southampton. Now where have i seen something similar to that a team should have had a penalty but the dippers counter attack and score.
It was clear trip and penalty it could have put Southampton 1 up and changed the game.
VAR isnt fit for purpose and so bent.
That's just two games of the top of my head where a penalty should have been award against the dippers at nil-nil. Which could have changed the out come of the game yet the dippers were allowed to score on the counter attack which changed the game IN THEIR FAVOUR. Yes they are a good team but this league win is heavily tainted.

 

[BaldyBoy68]

Just seen the highlights of the dippers game, it showed them going straight up on a counter attack and scoring after what should have been a penalty to Southampton. Now where have i seen something similar to that a team should have had a penalty but the dippers counter attack and score.
It was clear trip and penalty it could have put Southampton 1 up and changed the game.
VAR isnt fit for purpose and so bent.
That's just two games of the top of my head where a penalty should have been award against the dippers at nil-nil. Which could have changed the out come of the game yet the dippers were allowed to score on the counter attack which changed the game IN THEIR FAVOUR. Yes they are a good team but this league win is heavily tainted.

what about the Liverpool penalty appeal where Firmino was held down with a free header on goal before the Southampton one. Both were stone wall in my opinion but you never mentioned that one for some reason.

 

[give it to gordon]

what about the Liverpool penalty appeal where Firmino was held down with a free header on goal before the Southampton one. Both were stone wall in my opinion but you never mentioned that one for some reason.

I didnt think it was a penalty thought VAR got the first one correct got the Southampton one wrong just my view

 

[blueinsa]

Ok will do , but still well over the top in this sort of stuff and if you believe it is why be so upset.
Usually the same few people go on about this we get 51,000 a week taking away the away support. And many other grounds have good support..
Believe you me if e English football was that corrupt, thousands wouldn't bother going and football would die.
And I wouldn't give a shit if we beat utd 10-0 or lose 10 -0.
It's only cos we are having a bad season in the league by our standards these sort of threads crop up.
Could be alot worse we could be manchester fucking united !!!!

Why should I be upset the game I love is being stolen away from us by money men, criminals and bookies?

You have to ask?

 

[BaldyBoy68]

I didnt think it was a penalty thought VAR got the first one correct got the Southampton one wrong just my view

‘Both we’re stonewall buddy. You cant have both hands on a players shoulders pushing him down in the 6 yard box when there’s a free header. Ings got chopped twice so also a penalty.

 

[give it to gordon]

‘Both we’re stonewall buddy. You cant have both hands on a players shoulders pushing him down in the 6 yard box when there’s a free header. Ings got chopped twice so also a penalty.

perhaps just trying to even it out so it doesn't look like the dippers have been helped to much so didn't give it , but when Southampton got through VAR went back to type ...shit we cant have the dippers losing its not allowed my the bosses, as once said we have a plan to have different winner every 6 years . This season its the dippers and VAR will make sure …..its simple really

you can put your hands on another players shoulders when defending of course it depends on what team is defending

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

We really wouldn't mate, I've no idea why you'd even type something like that. Makes us look bitter as fuck.

In the games they've been gifted a goal when they've been struggling to get going, just imagine for a moment that the hadn't managed to score. Those games could so easily ended in a draw or even a defeat. Instead, they were gifted a goal and went on to win comfortably.

There's a reason for that. The opposition know they've been mugged, and they know that no matter how hard they try they aren't going to win. I've seen that kind of mentality in our players ( Chelsea at home is a prime example).

 

[blueinsa]

‘Both we’re stonewall buddy. You cant have both hands on a players shoulders pushing him down in the 6 yard box when there’s a free header. Ings got chopped twice so also a penalty.

You can if you're the media proclaimed best defender in the world, VVD.

Nothing gets past him because he has free license to be as physical as he likes.

Its called game management from the officials.

I know it as cheating.

 

[tornandfrayed]

I couldn't have put it better myself

 

[give it to gordon]

In the games they've been gifted a goal when they've been struggling to get going, just imagine for a moment that the hadn't managed to score. Those games could so easily ended in a draw or even a defeat. Instead, they were gifted a goal and went on to win comfortably.

There's a reason for that. The opposition know they've been mugged, and they know that no matter how hard they try they aren't going to win. I've seen that kind of mentality in our players ( Chelsea at home is a prime example).

bang on you could see the effect it had on our players...like.....'oh no here we f**king go again', particularly early season after the spurs game

 

[Dubai Blue]

Yeah but surely that's like alot of things in life such as other sports, work, gambling etc. I mean why bother with anything there's pro and cons to anything you do.

I'm not talking about the people who complain that VAR is shit. It absolutely is. And while it's made the game less enjoyable, I'll continue to watch as I still love the sporting contest of it all.

I'm specifically referring to the "Football Is Fixed" believers who think the whole thing is rigged and results are pre-determined. If they genuinely believe that, why bother watching at all?

 

[BaldyBoy68]

perhaps just trying to even it out so it doesn't look like the dippers have been helped to much so didn't give it , but when Southampton got through VAR went back to type ...shit we cant have the dippers losing its not allowed my the bosses, as once said we have a plan to have different winner every 6 years . This season its the dippers and VAR will make sure …..its simple really

you can put your hands on another players shoulders when defending of course it depends on what team is defending

Fair enough but from the outside looking in it really isn’t what you see, but when you’ve been used to winning nothing, then winning everything and then some other great side start to also win things it can hurt.

 

[give it to gordon]

I'm not talking about the people who complain that VAR is shit. It absolutely is. And while it's made the game less enjoyable, I'll continue to watch as I still love the sporting contest of it all.

I'm specifically referring to the "Football Is Fixed" believers who think the whole thing is rigged and results are pre-determined. If they genuinely believe that, why bother watching at all?

I believe the premiership is fixed. And that the league has now found a tool to help them get the results they want its called VAR. But part of me doesn't want to believe it , I still want to watch my beloved City week in week out as I have done for nearly 60 years now. I will be having a hard think about next season as to wither I continue to be a matching going fan.
I don't want to believe its bent but game after game I see things that VAR get wrong , like our winner against spurs , or our penalty against the dippers , our that penalty for Southampton yesterday. Its every weekend most teams are getting done over my VAR. When it seems impossible for VAR to come to the decision it has.
I might be walking away after I have said goodbye to our magician it might be my last game as well

 

[JASR]

Fair enough but from the outside looking in it really isn’t what you see, but when you’ve been used to winning nothing, then winning everything and then some other great side start to also win things it can hurt.

Get over yourself. City fans have complained about bias since Aguerrooo. It reached its height over the past 2 completely dominating seasons.
This season, is just a continuation of that.

essentially we were winning everything, but know we are being attempted at being screwed over.
This year, the screwing over and skewing has worked. Cheers VAR/nonVAr

 

[bluemcr]

I'm not talking about the people who complain that VAR is shit. It absolutely is. And while it's made the game less enjoyable, I'll continue to watch as I still love the sporting contest of it all.

I'm specifically referring to the "Football Is Fixed" believers who think the whole thing is rigged and results are pre-determined. If they genuinely believe that, why bother watching at all?

Yeah I know what your saying, but the liverpool v city game sent a fair few over the edge with how that was officiated. I think it's just not all squeaky clean at the top of the game. Lots of back scratching, favours, large sums of money involved, football politics. It's a murky world.

 

[Cornish_Blue]

Yeah I know what your saying, but the liverpool v city game sent a fair few over the edge with how that was officiated. I think it's just not all squeaky clean at the top of the game. Lots of back scratching, favours, large sums of money involved, football politics. It's a murky world.

Spot on assessment.

 

[Ric]

I couldn't have put it better myself

Good thread that. Agree with a lot of what she says about VAR.

 

[The blue phantom]

I believe the premiership is fixed. And that the league has now found a tool to help them get the results they want its called VAR

So the folk running the PL are risking certain Jail sentences along with most if not all of Pigmol when all this explodes? As there's obviously a hell of a lot of folk involved in all of this. One whistleblower with taped recordings/emails/documents etc etc blows the biggest sporting scandal ever with billions of pounds at stake, just to stop us, and crown a different team?

 

[tornandfrayed]

Good thread that. Agree with a lot of what she says about VAR.

What about her take on German Higher Biblical criticism?

 

[give it to gordon]

So the folk running the PL are risking certain Jail sentences along with most if not all of Pigmol when all this explodes? As there's obviously a hell of a lot of folk involved in all of this. One whistleblower with taped recordings/emails/documents etc etc blows the biggest sporting scandal ever with billions of pounds at stake, just to stop us, and crown a different team?

Why not ?

It's not just to stop us to stop anyone other than the team they want to win
People in power and big money get greedy. The Bankers brought our country to its knees and I think only about 2 bankers went to jail. Big money people look after their own !

Sepp Blatter isn't in prison is he ?