Var debate 2019/20

[SebastianBlue]

The fan or the ref?

No idea, was only a joke that I tell far too often to my German and Swiss in-laws. ;-)

I would wager that absolutely nothing happened to the ref (except for perhaps receiving a brown envelope bonus from Bayern) and that the fan was likely taken up for improper engagement of authorities.

 

[Phil1]

This thread is giving the brexit thread a run for its money in terms of tediousness.

 

[LWashington]

And what happened next?

Nothing, German VAR overturned it, but in England he'd have been stuck with the original call.

 

[SebastianBlue]

This thread is giving the brexit thread a run for its money in terms of tediousness.

And, like Brexit, there’s only catastrophe (mostly my jokes) in the end.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Any objective measure

This is what I had hoped would be brought to the football field with the use of VAR. Unfortunately, it seems that the people looking at referred decisions are applying all kinds of minutiae that turn decisions given one week into decisions not given the next. This is no better than the shite we've had season after season. The bookies are currently offering 1/100 on a blatant, stonewall, nailed-on penalty frequently awarded at The Swamp or Anfield being dismissed with a a raucous belly laugh at PiGMOL HQ if a forward goes A over T in the area we are attacking!

 

[ctid1894]

VAR is very simple to fix.

1. Mic the corrupt cünts up, the decision making process should be completely transparent. No need for post match explanations.

2. Fuck this “high bar/threshold” bullshit off for penalties and red cards. If it’s a penalty or red card just make the “correct” decision, aided by the transparency (as above). If there’s still any doubt the advantage goes to the defender.

3. Handball is only handball if it’s deliberate, if there’s still any doubt the advantage goes to the defender.

4. Offsides under the camera technologies 13.3-38.8cm margin of error (can’t be arsed re-thinking the maths to work out which is correct) should be seen as advantage to the attacker. Update as and when technology improves.

5. Anyone proven to be diving (e.g. no contact, going down prior to contact or the attacker instigating contact) in the box should be immediately shown a red card, banned for 3-5 games and their weekly wage forfeited to charity.

6. Any groups of officials (on-field and VAR together) later proven to make “incorrect” decisions forfeit their match fees for that game to charity.

 

[northwichblue]

VAR is very simple to fix.

1. Mic the corrupt cünts up, the decision making process should be completely transparent. No need for post match explanations.

2. Fuck this “high bar/threshold” bullshit off for penalties and red cards. If it’s a penalty or red card just make the “correct” decision, aided by the transparency (as above). If there’s still any doubt the advantage goes to the defender.

3. Handball is only handball if it’s deliberate, if there’s still any doubt the advantage goes to the defender.

4. Offsides under the camera technologies 13.3-38.8cm margin of error (can’t be arsed re-thinking the maths to work out which is correct) should be seen as advantage to the attacker. Update as and when technology improves.

5. Anyone proven to be diving (e.g. no contact, going down prior to contact or the attacker instigating contact) in the box should be immediately shown a red card, banned for 3-5 games and their weekly wage forfeited to charity.

6. Any groups of officials (on-field and VAR together) later proven to make “incorrect” decisions forfeit their match fees for that game to charity.

 

[northwichblue]

Blimey !

 

[stonerblue]

This thread is giving the brexit thread a run for its money in terms of tediousness.

And just like brexit, it's a fucking stupid idea.

 

[SWP's back]

From today’s Mail:

“Riley insists he is prepared to listen to the feedback, however, and lower the bar during the course of the season if that is what the clubs demand.”

This during a piece saying that club’s are encouraged to give feedback. I’d imagine City are certainly doing that right now.

Having said that, it’s good that they may start using common sense, especially on obvious calls like Silva’s non penalty.