jimharri
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And the Newcastle equaliser. Hit the attacker's arm before going on to score the goal. How is that different to our "goal" against Spurs?
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Var debate 2019/20
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The Light Was Yellow Sir
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That’s fair enough. The forum and a glass or two of red don’t mix well sometimes!Eh? I don’t know how you’ve read my post to come to that conclusion. I couldn’t think of anything worse, I’d rather go back to the old third division.
Bandofblues
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Everybody continues to wrongly blame var when var is working absolutely fine and is merely highlighting the complete ineptitude of the refs in this country.
VAR is nothing more than a video replay, of course it's working fine. A 1980's Betamax recorder would be capable of showing these decisions as being incorrect.
They won’t go against their pals , it’s a cartel, the whole thing needs scrapping, var was brought in for exactly this type of thing & it’s actually making things worseJust seen the Leicester lads tackle and how the fuck can VAR say no red and the ref got it right?
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blueinsa
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And the Newcastle equaliser. Hit the attacker's arm before going on to score the goal. How is that different to our "goal" against Spurs?
It isnt and its exactly what we said would happen just a few weeks ago.
It will be interesting to see if he gets a three game ban this week as the ref didn't even give a yellow meaning he missed it all together..if it was one of ours it would be on a loop until something was done. Or are they not allowed to do retrospective bans because of var???Just seen the Leicester lads tackle and how the fuck can VAR say no red and the ref got it right?
How?
kinkysdribble
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VAR was supposed to aid referees in getting the right decision, but in fact all it has done is highlight just how bad they are, the game is scrutinised even more and incident after incident rewatched time and time again. The goal during the Newcastle/Watford game highlights the inconsistencies that VAR were supposed to irradicate, goal chalked off for us versus Spurs but allowed to stand yesterday, ERRORS OR BENT??????
cleavers
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The thing is its new and it was always going to adapt to criticism.It isnt and its exactly what we said would happen just a few weeks ago.
Our disallowed goal v spurs was strongly and publicly criticised, and rightly so, and as many predicted they'll have all since discussed it, and come to a consensus that that is not what VAR should be ruling out (it shouldn't be being used to rule out goals, unless they are obviously illegal).
Our Rodri penalty wasn't considered "clear and obvious" (very debatable in most opinions), but it was only one at the time, but this week has seen several more poor decisions, a couple of "should have been" penalties, also now being scrutinised publicly (the Tierney one is frankly ridiculous), so further discussion must surely be had that VAR has to be seen to be doing something to correct obviously wrong decisions, so it will adapt again.
Also the idiot doing the Villa game, who booked Grealish and disallowed the goal, should be put on re-training, as should the idiot in the VAR booth for not changing it or at least getting the referee to view it again, and correct his obvious error, its neither a foul or a dive, its a pass to a colleague, who subsequently scores a perfectly good goal (see "it shouldn't be being used to rule out goals, unless they are obviously illegal" above).
Its all fine and well saying it should be scrapped, but that isn't happening 4 games into the season, its here and its staying, so with more data available each week (ie wrong decisions), its surely better for better interpretations to be brought in than leave it as it is ?
We can micro analyse every decision we don't like, but its here and its staying, so lets get it working the best way possible for the good of everybody.
west didsblue
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It’s fucking outrageous. In that case yesterday, not only was it a handball but it was the same player that scored so this handball was directly in breach of rule 12, whereas the rule had to be “interpreted” for Laporte’s handball. Here’s law 12 which had to be interpreted for Jesus’s disallowed goal and ignored for the Newcastle one.And the Newcastle equaliser. Hit the attacker's arm before going on to score the goal. How is that different to our "goal" against Spurs?
It is an offence if a player:
- deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball
- gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
- scores in the opponents’ goal
- creates a goal-scoring opportunity
- scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
But it had to be interpreted to mean that an accidental handball leading to another player gaining possession of the ball meant that the player had committed an offence in our case.
It stinks and just saying that “VAR missed it” on this occasion is a fucking joke.