Var debate 2019/20

[Thaksinssoldier]

When Sterling was flagged offside what would have happened if his shot had gone in , would VAR review it ?

No because the whistle went.

Against what they've briefed would be the case.

Convenient that.

 

[Phil1]

if i bore you dont read and dont comment - easy

It’s not as easy as you think.

 

[simon23]

You are constantly challenging posters and defending VAR No other team is getting screwed over every week by VAR/the man who watches it. All the VAR man has to say is did you see him step on Silvas foot. If he says no it is a penalty, if he says yes then we are well and truly fucked.
Three games and fucked over 4 times, that says it all.

Id say utd fans think VAR didnt give them what they deserved yesterday

Ive said lots of times that VAR officials got that call wrong today...I to annot understand how a ref sees that as anything other than a penalty....but this has always been the case - with or without VAR....

 

[SWP's back]

He got a very slight tug on his shirt yesterday,he didn't even feel it and carried on,for that they gave a pen

That. Was. The. Ref. On. The. Pitch.

 

[SWP's back]

When Sterling was flagged offside what would have happened if his shot had gone in , would VAR review it ?

Yeah I think so. I’d been thinking that myself (that it’s still worth pinging it in the net just in case).

 

[simon23]

That. Was. The. Ref. On. The. Pitch.

Will the VAR ever over turna dive I wonder - they dont appear to be very strong at present so im guessing no

 

[CTID1977]

have you seen the after match interview on sky? pep said afterwards Thanks for not asking me questions about the var.

 

[AlfGreyruinedmyday]

Corrupt as fuck. It is like EVERY other has been given a FREE £150m striker. How can they defend this bollocks?

I'm not a lawyer (even one of the barrack room variety) but I'm beginning to think that this has all the hallmarks for becoming the sport equivalent of PPI. People going to games; people subscribing to football packages; people betting and so on could trigger a claim some time in the future if this isn't sorted out and quickly. A sporting event, by its nature, is prone to a number of complexities and uncertainties so, to date it has been difficult to bring claims of impartiality or corruption. VAR however is guided by the Laws of the Game and should enable a platform where mistakes are limited and bias, however seemingly innocent, is reduced to statistical norms. The ad hoc explanations given; the almost arrogant unwillingness to believe that the crowd is worthy of listening to the referee/Stockley Park dialogue (the supporters of both rugby codes and cricket seem able to master it whether their toffs or scruffs) ; the subjective use of relay feeds from broadcasters etc.; the , etc. give grave cause concern to me, as an average football fan. Lawyers like fat cat victims and The FA Premier League; PIGMOL; SKY; BT etc. need to tread very carefully in my opinion. Especially as the PPI gravy train is about to hit the buffers.
If I am writing bollocks then please take my fifty years of watching city in mitigation. I'm sure many a jury would find I've suffered enough.

 

[SWP's back]

Will the VAR ever over turna dive I wonder - they dont appear to be very strong at present so im guessing no

Var has not over turned any penalty decision (yet) as I’ve repeated a thousand times. For any team. In any match.

That’s why it’s useless rather than bent.

 

[The blue phantom]

Do the VAR officials see the same replays we do on TV? Stonewall pen today not given

Mate, as has been said by quite a few of us, the Refs using Var arnt overturning the onfield refs penalty decisions. It's as simple as that. We've been shafted, Rags have, Wolves and a couple of others. They just arnt making their mate look a **** on the pitch by flipping his decision. Which is bollocks if you ask me but that's the way every penalty has gone up to yet

 

[Blue Mooner]

We know your opinion. It’s on every other page of the thread. It’s hard not to read them when you post so fucking often saying the same thing that is wrong

Slightly corrected.

 

[Blue Mist]

Id say utd fans think VAR didnt give them what they deserved yesterday

Ive said lots of times that VAR officials got that call wrong today...I to annot understand how a ref sees that as anything other than a penalty....but this has always been the case - with or without VAR....

The amount of times the Rags flung themselves to the floor looking for a foul/penalty clearly went against them but any way I am talking about today and your continued defence of VAR. It is a joke but it is a joke that is always being played against us. I can accept he didn't see it in real time that is why VAR was brought in but for the second week running they have ignored the technology. It isn't about the VAR man being stronger it stinks of corrupt practices.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Surely the conversation between the ref and var should have been “the defender stood on his foot, did you see it?”, if the reply was no then it was an clear and obvious error missed by the ref so pen; if the reply was yes then var should have said back “then why the fu@k have you not given the pen?!!”

Surely once they established he didn’t see the treading on the foot, the VAR should have told Marriner to go and review it again on pitch side monitor, again surely that’s what it’s fucking for.

It’s pathetic.

Don’t understand why there are any reviews if nothing is ever going to get overturned, the system is useless in current format.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Var has not over turned any penalty decision (yet) as I’ve repeated a thousand times. For any team. In any match.

That’s why it’s useless rather than bent.

Which others have been quite as blatant? or should i say 'clear and obvious'?

 

[cibaman]

Var has not over turned any penalty decision (yet) as I’ve repeated a thousand times. For any team. In any match.

That’s why it’s useless rather than bent.

It does seem that the VAR officials are just too unwilling to challenge the refs decision. They’re only giving decisions such as offside which don’t reflect on the ability of their colleague.

 

[kaz7]

as repatative as you Karen - id stooped last night but then saw more comments made by you this morning to others - hence why i reacted to them

Again if you dont like it dont read...simple

I asked you to stop quoting me,it's simple

 

[Mancity1980]

I'm not a lawyer (even one of the barrack room variety) but I'm beginning to think that this has all the hallmarks for becoming the sport equivalent of PPI. People going to games; people subscribing to football packages; people betting and so on could trigger a claim some time in the future if this isn't sorted out and quickly. A sporting event, by its nature, is prone to a number of complexities and uncertainties so, to date it has been difficult to bring claims of impartiality or corruption. VAR however is guided by the Laws of the Game and should enable a platform where mistakes are limited and bias, however seemingly innocent, is reduced to statistical norms. The ad hoc explanations given; the almost arrogant unwillingness to believe that the crowd is worthy of listening to the referee/Stockley Park dialogue (the supporters of both rugby codes and cricket seem able to master it whether their toffs or scruffs) ; the subjective use of relay feeds from broadcasters etc.; the , etc. give grave cause concern to me, as an average football fan. Lawyers like fat cat victims and The FA Premier League; PIGMOL; SKY; BT etc. need to tread very carefully in my opinion. Especially as the PPI gravy train is about to hit the buffers.
If I am writing bollocks then please take my fifty years of watching city in mitigation. I'm sure many a jury would find I've suffered enough.

I would you say you are making a lot of sense there. Interesting point about the temptation of ppi lawyers to jump onto this after the 31 August deadline.

 

[Proy]

Var has not over turned any penalty decision (yet) as I’ve repeated a thousand times. For any team. In any match.

That’s why it’s useless rather than bent.

It will. You can rest assured of that.

 

[Mancity1980]

Surely once they established he didn’t see the treading on the foot, the VAR should have told Marriner to go and review it again on pitch side monitor, again surely that’s what it’s fucking for.

It’s pathetic.

Don’t understand why there are any reviews if nothing is ever going to get overturned, the system is useless in current format.

For very good reasons they are trying to prevent the ref reviewing on the sidelines, it isn’t needed here anyway, just tell him that silva’s foot was stood on.

 

[Rammy Blue]

For very good reasons they are trying to prevent the ref reviewing on the sidelines, it isn’t needed here anyway, just tell him that silva’s foot was stood on.

My point is why have the monitor there then? They said that’d be the reason for its use.