VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

Would you want VAR scrapped?

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bluenova said:
Yes - but I don't think the defender knew he'd moved it the first time, and I am certain he didn't see him move it the second time.

The keeper is called over because he is the only one who can see the angle properly, if he's said it's fine, and the defender doesn't know something has then changed, what can he do? If he overrides the keeper and moves the wall, he's giving the keeper more of the goal to cover. He's surely got to trust his keeper, especially if he's already asked him to double check?
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Yeah, if he's turned and missed it happen, then it's not totally on him. Regardless though, I don't care if the keeper has said it's right - if the ball then gets moved it's no longer right, you have to adjust a touch.

If the guy on the end doesn't see it happen, someone in the wall must have, then they should push over.

Granted, it's possible that they tried and didn't quite have time. They could end with someone in the middle trying to move it but the guy on the end insisting it's right, unaware of the move.

Possibly difficult for them. Clever by Toney I'd say. It's all part of playing to the whistle and accepting the ref is always right - if you get away with it, well done.
 
mattcity5 said:
Yeah, if he's turned and missed it happen, then it's not totally on him. Regardless though, I don't care if the keeper has said it's right - if the ball then gets moved it's no longer right, you have to adjust a touch.

If the guy on the end doesn't see it happen, someone in the wall must have, then they should push over.

Granted, it's possible that they tried and didn't quite have time. They could end with someone in the middle trying to move it but the guy on the end insisting it's right, unaware of the move.

Possibly difficult for them. Clever by Toney I'd say. It's all part of playing to the whistle and accepting the ref is always right - if you get away with it, well done.
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Remember the player can't see in two directions at once, so they can't know if they're in the wrong place accurately.

It's a good spot from the player that the line wasn't quite right after Toney moved it the first time, but from the look of things, he's asked the keeper to come back and check, and when that's ok'd. I don't think the defender can be expected to assume that Toney has moved the ball AND the white foam - ref's tend to draw a little half circle these days, so it's clearer where the ball has to stay.
 
bluenova said:
Remember the player can't see in two directions at once, so they can't know if they're in the wrong place accurately.

It's a good spot from the player that the line wasn't quite right after Toney moved it the first time, but from the look of things, he's asked the keeper to come back and check, and when that's ok'd. I don't think the defender can be expected to assume that Toney has moved the ball AND the white foam - ref's tend to draw a little half circle these days, so it's clearer where the ball has to stay.
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I'm pretty sure Ian Dowie could.
 
halfcenturyup said:
But you do agree it's ridiculous that offsides are measures to the mm, but VAR can't correct someone moving the ball and the referee's mark for a free-kick that is scored from? They really don't do themselves any favours with this VAR nonsense.
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@halfcenturyup Var could and should have intervened. Stephen230 is wrong. It is classed as a serious missed incident, basically he cheated. He not only moved the ball, he moved the refs foam and then moved the ball again.
 
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