VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

Would you want VAR scrapped?

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mancboy said:
the fa and pgmol should literally tell liverpool to fuck off, this idea that they are better than anyone else so must be listened to must be banished and dismissed out of hand, its a fecking joke that we are taking this so seriously because liverpool were on the other end of it, do you think if it happened for liverpool against bournemouth that their would be anywhere near the same outrage, basically the fa and pgmol are just openly confirming what everyone already knew and that is that the istree clubs are reffed different than everyone else
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Have to disagree. The FA and PGMOL should be ensuring they eradicate these fuck ups, not simply accept a pathetic apology from Webb absolves them
 
mosssideblue said:
Have to disagree. The FA and PGMOL should be ensuring they eradicate these fuck ups, not simply accept a pathetic apology from Webb absolves them
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yeah they absolutely should but NOT because it affected liverpool, they didnt do it last season when a goal wasnt given at klanfield because there wasnt a camera at the specific angle, they havent forced either anfield or the swamp to comply with the specific rules that everyone else with in terms of having screens in the ground. Im not saying that the situation shouldnt be sorted, what im saying is that it shouldnt just be sorted because it affected liverpool, it wasnt sorted when it was at liverpools benefit and it hasnt been sorted when it has benefitted the rags but because they have been on the other end of a bad one now it should be sorted?
 
On five live world phone in this morning it was mentioned that the Brazilian league referees release audio conversations after the match to the media to help with post match debate etc.

It can be done.

Webb hiding behind any excuse not to, unless it for his TV show shows either the unprofessionalism of the people he manages (which was alluded to in the first show) or something more.
 
mancboy said:
yeah they absolutely should but NOT because it affected liverpool, they didnt do it last season when a goal wasnt given at klanfield because there wasnt a camera at the specific angle, they havent forced either anfield or the swamp to comply with the specific rules that everyone else with in terms of having screens in the ground. Im not saying that the situation shouldnt be sorted, what im saying is that it shouldnt just be sorted because it affected liverpool, it wasnt sorted when it was at liverpools benefit and it hasnt been sorted when it has benefitted the rags but because they have been on the other end of a bad one now it should be sorted?
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Does it really matter who pops the zit?

Every club will have tales of woe regarding VAR.

Personally, I'm glad Liverpool has taken this stance as they are one of the darling clubs, so it may gain some traction.
 
mosssideblue said:
Does it really matter who pops the zit?

Every club will have tales of woe regarding VAR.

Personally, I'm glad Liverpool has taken this stance as they are one of the darling clubs, so it may gain some traction.
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yes it matters because by taking liverpools complaints seriously, both the fa and pgmol are basically outright admitting that none of the other clubs matter and have been reffed and treated differently
 
Ah, the irony of it all.

Quite a few years back (I know, I know) I pitched on BM the idea of the capt/ manager being able to 'challenge' a reffing decision; 2 challenges per half and that, of course, the challenges would have to be used properly. I was shouted down about it being 'impractical' as it would 'slow the game down' and 'at what point would you stop the game' and 'the game would take forever' yadda yadda yadda.

Irony of ironies; look at where the addition of time is now?! Plenty of time to review any decisions as it doesn't stop the flow of the game.

That idea of mine was rubbished (and stolen. I wonder if the MUEN will resurrect their past 'article'), but look at where we are when the game isn't inclusive of the participants?
 
mosssideblue said:
Of course they are, and if it were us or any other club, the same argument would be made.

The fixes that VAR needs are easily addressed, but still we have stupid errors being made, so I can understand the undertones of sporting integrity.
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If it's a VAR error, it is potentially fixable...... the human element is another matter, you can't fix stupid.
 
mancboy said:
so you truly believe that all other clubs are reffed equitably and fairly
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I think all clubs can make arguments for being on the wrong end of bad decisions and, as fans, we clearly see bad decisions as being the worst out there, irrespective of the colour of the shirt.

We should all want the same from VAR i.e. no obvious errors. If Liverpool escalating things to facilitate improvement for all then fair play to them.
 
TinFoilHat said:
On five live world phone in this morning it was mentioned that the Brazilian league referees release audio conversations after the match to the media to help with post match debate etc.

It can be done.

Webb hiding behind any excuse not to, unless it for his TV show shows either the unprofessionalism of the people he manages (which was alluded to in the first show) or something more.
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Oh well, it keeps Dimwit Dermot in a job espousing how every refereeing decision ever made is correct... ish
 
mosssideblue said:
I think all clubs can make arguments for being on the wrong end of bad decisions and, as fans, we clearly see bad decisions as being the worst out there, irrespective of the colour of the shirt.

We should all want the same from VAR i.e. no obvious errors. If Liverpool escalating things to facilitate improvement for all then fair play to them.
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I agree with you i absolutely want it fixed, that wasnt my point, what i was saying is why wasnt it fixed when it was benefitting liverpool or united, where was the outrage them, why is it okay when it benefits them but not when it doesnt
 
Slipper One said:
You're missing the point, there are any number of clubs having issues with VAR, that's the point I'm making. After the comments made by Dean and the offside at the weekend, football as a whole has to speak up and force changes. The higher the profile making the noise, the more the media take notice, that's why I'd like Pep to be more vocal and not just him either.
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And how many of them have acted like your shit arse club?
Spitty demanding the game to be restarted at the point of the goal being allowed.
Other clubs have a whinge but you lot go full on weirdo, so much so that plenty of people trying to say it is being fixed by City because you know we are UAE and the refs reffed over there before the game. That is just a mental take.

Of course, the other mental take is the blindness you all suffer when you are on the right side of the dodgy VAR decision and by God you have had plenty, your title will forever be associated with the term Livarpool for this reason.
You wonder why the term always the victims exists, it is for these kind of reasons and not what you all think.
 
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mancboy said:
I agree with you i absolutely want it fixed, that wasnt my point, what i was saying is why wasnt it fixed when it was benefitting liverpool or united, where was the outrage them, why is it okay when it benefits them but not when it doesnt
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Again, does it really matter? It's been highlighted and, hopefully something will change for the better
 
Slipper One said:
You're missing the point, there are any number of clubs having issues with VAR, that's the point I'm making. After the comments made by Dean and the offside at the weekend, football as a whole has to speak up and force changes. The higher the profile making the noise, the more the media take notice, that's why I'd like Pep to be more vocal and not just him either.
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ha ha ban for pep incoming for bringing game into disrepute
bingo oh he might have point dont worry we'll help you out against city again

run off back to RAWK theirs a good boy
 
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