VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

[give it to gordon]

I thought had a fairly good first weekend but I forgot the rags hadnt played.

The rags played and VAR proved to the world it's as bent as a nine bob note. Fucking disgraceful, bent, cheating, bent , bent bent . This game should be null and void. Fucking disgraceful

 

[City_Sean]

Personally it should be mandatory for every ground in the league to have a big screen, as well as the audio during VAR decisions to be heard by the crowd to at least try and understand the rationale.

They don't want that, because that creates a level of accountability and these clowns hide behind their boss.

 

[waspish]

Thing with var is at the big clubs away from home the referees can and don't give the big decisions and leave it to var to make it and with the margin of what they are told they'll always have an excuse not to give it! Sorry if they had 3 referees in the var room asking them if that was a penalty all would say yes if it was West Ham away of 99% of any other teams!

 

[halfcenturyup]

I watched that video of Neville and Carragher visiting Stockley Park and I was shocked at how luxurious it was. Seriously, how much did that cost? Gyms and massages, for Christ's sake. But they can't implement SAOT because it is too expensive. They should be sat in vans in the car park like some police surveillance operations, if you ask me.

 

[yeah whatever !!]

I watched that video of Neville and Carragher visiting Stockley Park and I was shocked at how luxurious it was. Seriously, how much did that cost? Gyms and massages, for Christ's sake. But they can't implement SAOT because it is too expensive. They should be sat in vans in the car park like some police surveillance operations, if you ask me.

I'm sure someone on here said that clubs were against this hence why it wasn't implemented.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I'm sure someone on here said that clubs were against this hence why it wasn't implemented.

That's classic messaging when you don't want to do something. Phrase the resolution in a negative way and then say the meeting agreed to it. Boardroom manoeuvering grade 1.

 

[youngbob]

Involving United getting three points.

To be fair, United didn't benefit from VAR overall last season.

Final 2022/23 Premier League table without VAR

As the futuristic notion of video assistant referees (VAR) began to gain traction in 2017, it operated under the slogan 'minimum interference for maximum benefi

www.90min.com

 

[johnny crossan]

One game for VAR to work on last night in a newly equipped £10m hub with 30 cameras and big Howard on the floor calling the shots. Utter destruction of all credibility in one act of blatant match fixing. Webb should go but they may as well abandon the whole cheating circus it's a sick joke.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

To be fair, United didn't benefit from VAR overall last season.

Final 2022/23 Premier League table without VAR

As the futuristic notion of video assistant referees (VAR) began to gain traction in 2017, it operated under the slogan 'minimum interference for maximum benefi

www.90min.com

Is Grey Whitebloom the nom de plume of Howard Webb? That really can't be a real name can it?

 

[youngbob]

To be fair, United didn't benefit from VAR overall last season.

Final 2022/23 Premier League table without VAR

As the futuristic notion of video assistant referees (VAR) began to gain traction in 2017, it operated under the slogan 'minimum interference for maximum benefi

www.90min.com

Just looked at this overall:

City (lost 6 points)
Arsenal (lost 1 point)
United (--)
Newcastle (--)
Liverpool (gained 7 points)
Brighton (lost 2 points)
Aston Villa (gained 5 points)
Spurs (--)
Brentford (gained 3 points)
Fulham (lost 1 point)
Palace (lost 1 point)
Chelsea (lost 1 point)
Wolves (--)
West Ham (lost 7 points)
Bournemouth (lost 1 point)
Forest (lost 3 points)
Everton (lost 2 points)
Leicester (lost 3 points)
Leeds (lost 4 points)
Southampton (--)

 

[Claytop]

So, when is the audio for that decision going to be released by Webb?...

 

[Bluearmy]

Did we get an apology. Can't remember anything.

PGMOL insisted it was the right decision against Ederson as there was contact.

Different set of rules apply for the cartel clubs!!

 

[I'm With Stupid]

To be fair, United didn't benefit from VAR overall last season.

Final 2022/23 Premier League table without VAR

As the futuristic notion of video assistant referees (VAR) began to gain traction in 2017, it operated under the slogan 'minimum interference for maximum benefi

www.90min.com

This sort of thing is bollocks though, because the refs make different decisions now VAR is available. I remember the scousers saying one season that they'd had more points taken by VAR than any other team. And all that proves is that you were getting more favourable decisions in the first place.

 

[Bluearmy]

To be fair, United didn't benefit from VAR overall last season.

Final 2022/23 Premier League table without VAR

As the futuristic notion of video assistant referees (VAR) began to gain traction in 2017, it operated under the slogan 'minimum interference for maximum benefi

www.90min.com

I see they dont go into the detail for the Rags. Surprise surprise. It also doesnt take into account incorrect decisions that didnt go to VAR, which should have done!

They certainly benefitted with “favourable” decisions against City, Liverpool and Arsenal in the league off the top of my head!! Im sure theres others i cant quite remember.

What should be shown is where teams get inexplicably incorrect decisions by Ref’s/VAR and what impact that has on leagues

Maybe we should keep an independent check on the dodgy decisions the rags consistently receive…..

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

The fact that PGMOL have re-employed Lee Mason tells you all you need to know. The simplest way to resolve all of this is as follows:

All VAR decisions shown on a big screen as they do in cricket and rugby so that everyone in the ground as well as at home can see what the VAR officials are looking at. Secondly all conversations between the officials when reviewing any decision should be heard, as they do in cricket and rugby, so that when a decision is reached people can try to understand how.

It isn't hard to do yet for some unknown reason football doesn't want to implement what would undoubtedly make the process better. If you have no screens then either you install at least two large ones of a minimum specification or you play all games away from home i.e. you play twice at each club's ground. Stop the manipulation of the game otherwise it just becomes WWE. We as fans should be together on this and whilst certain fans won't want to be part of it the majority want transparency.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

To be fair, United didn't benefit from VAR overall last season.

Final 2022/23 Premier League table without VAR

As the futuristic notion of video assistant referees (VAR) began to gain traction in 2017, it operated under the slogan 'minimum interference for maximum benefi

www.90min.com

That article doesn't take account of the bent decisions where VAR didn't intervene like Attwell cheating in the Old Trafford Derby.

 

[TinFoilHat]

 

[Bluearmy]

Var is an utter shit show in the Premier League. Things should have improved but surprise surprise they’ve got worse

There is nothing wrong with VAR, even a village idiot can see its a penalty. The tech works.

The bent officials however need exposing and removed! Starting with that **** Webb

 

[Bill]

doing what it was brought in to do .

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

doing what it was brought in to do .

It’s hard to disagree with this. There will never be a more clear-cut decision to give as a penalty as this one.

Social media is full of outlets criticising and questioning the decision. Talksport have been on it all morning.

It is the perfect tool as they don’t have to come out and do anything other than say ‘oh soz. Got it wrong’.