VAR Discussion Thread | 2024/25

marco said:
if the tech is there, the VAR panel should not be watching the game, they are there to review and make a decision based on what they see in a replay, the replay should be simulated and the teams should not be identifiable if you get the drift, im sure that could be done with a few seconds from running live, therefore then they cant be looked upon as bent because they would have no idea who there making the decision for or against
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The VAR shouldn’t be watching the game?

I’m not sure you’ve really thought this one through.
 
Stephen230 said:
The VAR shouldn’t be watching the game?

I’m not sure you’ve really thought this one through.
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Its a good idea, don't take it literally what he means is the pictures they see should be anonolysed so that any bias is removed, unfortunately the time it would take is far too long

My idea would be to have 3 "judges" watching the game without any contact to the each other, or the on field ref. If they see an incident they press a button if 2 press the action is then automatically replayed within a minute they have to make a decision if they are sure of an offense they press again, with all 3 having to agree to ask the on-filed ref to review, he then sees all angles no slow motion or freeze frame
 
I think just have the ref referee the game. Let him have access to the tech but let the one person referee the game.

It was quite fundamental to the integrity of the game. It really feels like we lost that. Any of the VAR team can call a penalty and change the result whenever they want. They can, if they want call the referee to the monitor to review a tackle and turn that into a red.

It's about judgement a lot of the time so let the person qualified on the pitch make them, let him use the tech, but never ever let someone in a shed somewhere else make decisions. Madness.
 
Clear cut penalty for Palace , looking at refs posistion he had a sea of players in front of him to block him seeing the incident so couldn’t be sure, very quick VAR review and the right decision given. If only it was always this simple. Anyway, this is just exactly what I want.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Clear cut penalty for Palace , looking at refs posistion he had a sea of players in front of him to block him seeing the incident so couldn’t be sure, very quick VAR review and the right decision given. If only it was always this simple. Anyway, this is just exactly what I want.
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There's 10 players well spread out in the penalty area so I can't see how neither Madeley nor his assistant had a clear view of the incident.

VAR is the devil's spawn and it's changing the way referees officiate. Madeley and his assistant effectively copped out of making the decision for what was a clear penalty for Palace and left it to VAR. Embarrassing officiating.
 
Luddite_Blue said:



There's 10 players well spread out in the penalty area so I can't see how neither Madeley nor his assistant had a clear view of the incident.

VAR is the devil's spawn and it's changing the way referees officiate. Madeley and his assistant effectively copped out of making the decision for what was a clear penalty for Palace and left it to VAR. Embarrassing officiating.
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Once again everyone seems to think Refs have some amazing vision and would spot the right decision without VAR, he may have been swayed by the crowd and reaction and would likely have pointed to the spot, but we are guessing. It took a very short time for VAR to intervene and the ref saw a reply and gave the correct decision- it would have been criminal if that wasn’t a penalty but that’s the risk you take without VAR. I can understand why some welcome that.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Once again everyone seems to think Refs have some amazing vision and would spot the right decision without VAR, he may have been swayed by the crowd and reaction and would likely have pointed to the spot, but we are guessing. It took a very short time for VAR to intervene and the ref saw a reply and gave the correct decision- it would have been criminal if that wasn’t a penalty but that’s the risk you take without VAR. I can understand why some welcome that.
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How can you say neither the ref nor his assistant can see that incident where the penalty area is not crowded. The officials should be making decisive decisions but they've completely fudged it knowing they'll be bailed out if needed by VAR. If officials won't make big decisions, it's only going to end up going one way and that's VAR reffing the games. I've noticed if a high challenge is made in the middle of the pitch refs won't give a red card and wait for the VAR hub to instruct them. And if for every big decision you have to wait for VAR to adjudicate then it breaks up the natural rhythm of the game and then the biggest piss take is they don't even add on all the time taken waiting for VAR.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Once again everyone seems to think Refs have some amazing vision and would spot the right decision without VAR, he may have been swayed by the crowd and reaction and would likely have pointed to the spot, but we are guessing. It took a very short time for VAR to intervene and the ref saw a reply and gave the correct decision- it would have been criminal if that wasn’t a penalty but that’s the risk you take without VAR. I can understand why some welcome that.
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It wouldn't have been criminal. At worst, it would have been a mistake. They happen. They still happen.
 
The Brighton v Newcastle game was shown on delayed coverage here in NZ. Three 'penalty reviews' by VAR for the barcodes. What intrigued me was the length of time to agree with the handball (the third one) - it was so obvious in the screen shot that the player's arm was away from his body and had moved. How can they justify the number of reviews they took?
 
Bluekiwi said:
The Brighton v Newcastle game was shown on delayed coverage here in NZ. Three 'penalty reviews' by VAR for the barcodes. What intrigued me was the length of time to agree with the handball (the third one) - it was so obvious in the screen shot that the player's arm was away from his body and had moved. How can they justify the number of reviews they took?
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They were also checking offside on that one.
 
Bluekiwi said:
They'll be checking the wall is exactly 10 metres away next.
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Does anyone check that free-kicks that result in a goal are actually taken from the right place to the mm? It's a matter of fact in the same way offsides apparently are.

Remember that goal where the **** picked up the foam and moved it a couple of feet after the wall had set and then scored through the unprotected space. Where were facts to a mm then?

It's all bollocks.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Does anyone check that free-kicks that result in a goal are actually taken from the right place to the mm? It's a matter of fact in the same way offsides apparently are.

Remember that goal where the **** picked up the foam and moved it a couple of feet after the wall had set and then scored through the unprotected space. Where were facts to a mm then?

It's all bollocks.
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There was a goal at the weekend, Bournemouth possibly, but not sure, where they scored from a long throw taken about 15 yards from where the ball went out of play.

Inexplicable why the linesman didn’t get involved as it was in his half. But VAR can’t get involved in restarts.
 
Stephen230 said:
There was a goal at the weekend, Bournemouth possibly, but not sure, where they scored from a long throw taken about 15 yards from where the ball went out of play.

Inexplicable why the linesman didn’t get involved as it was in his half. But VAR can’t get involved in restarts.
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Why can't VAR get involved in restarts, Mum?

Because it's written, that's why.

:)
 
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