VAR Discussion Thread | 2024/25

Parker saying what we, the match going fans, think:
“That’s the way the game is, the game’s going that way. It’s going to become the most sterile game there is really. The linesmen and referees are slowly becoming redundant. We live in a world of perfection and when everyone wants perfection. Social media brings that, I think we want perfection in a game of football, which I just don’t agree with.”
 
What they have done is dispel the myth that the red clubs get referee help, and introduced a system that instead rubber stamps it by video. They've managed to make the game decisions so confusing that they can give whatever the fuck they want.

If City get yet another dodgy VAR decision tomorrow I'm just done trying to even watch football anymore.
 
I've watched football for the best part of 70 years and I have to say that this is no longer the game I have loved all these years. In fact it's debatable whether it's actually a sport anymore. Too open to manipulation by the misuse of technology. Even the CL draw on Thurs was partially automated. The lunatics seem to be running the asylum nowadays.
 
BillCarlisle said:
I've watched football for the best part of 70 years and I have to say that this is no longer the game I have loved all these years. In fact it's debatable whether it's actually a sport anymore. Too open to manipulation by the misuse of technology. Even the CL draw on Thurs was partially automated. The lunatics seem to be running the asylum nowadays.
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Money money money equals corruption and manipulation..
 
Still always open to dispute this shit,even tho,if used correctly,it should have been a step in the right direction(ish)I can’t help but feel that today has been absolutely anything but that!Ludicrous officiating in a word!Imagine what Fulham fans must be thinking right now?I know we’ve got some to come too,… and we’re the cheats!?Stop the f’kin world,I’d like to get off now,ffs.
 
Just do what rugby league do ffs. Put the onus on the referee to make the decision and check things if they think they’ve seen an infringement. ‘On field decision is no goal. Can you check if there was a foul in the build up by City’s number 3. Etc etc’. If the referee and linesmen doesn’t see anything, they make the decision on field. The decisions I saw today amount to the game being re-referreed from afar. Not what it was supposed to be. They don’t get much wrong once it goes to video ref. Maybe it’s a simpler game.
 
Simple solution is the VAR hub/ice cream van or whatever the fuck it is should be public knowledge on every review. Any pause in the game that spins into a review or any retrospective ruling on the action then there should be a live audio sequence from the team. Would make people accountable and end this game management nonsense.
 
The Minion said:
I've never actually understood why a decision, referred to VAR, is then sent back to Infield
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Exactly If 999 times out of 1000 the ref changes his mind what’s the point. They obviously know they will face trouble if they go against the recommendation so what’s the fkn point of the cntg screens?
 
I'm genuinely perplexed by the calls in the Burnley Vs rags game. Lyle called offside and the image clearly shows just his lower arm is offside. But you can't score with your lower arm? I was genuinely under the impression that for that very reason they discarded the lower arm? Except at old trafford, it seems. Yet you just know that the same call, in different circumstances, will be given as a goal. Different people officiating, different team wanting the goal, different decision.

Then there is the last minute penalty. Who'd have guessed United would be the beneficiaries here? A foul, yes for sure, but it's outside the area and the United player then dives to ground landing inside the area.

And what's the point now of carding goalkeepers for hanging on to a ball for 8 seconds, when var wants 8 minutes to check something and does away completely with the "clear and obvious" bar.

There genuinely is a different use of var depending on the team involved and the situation. I think we have all clearly seen that this weekend. If that is Burnley up the other end in the last minute at old trafford, who honestly thinks var is getting involved to change the referee's mind? Unless he did actually give a penalty to Burnley, in which case I can totally see him being called to the screen and being told the foul is outside the area.

The anger amongst supporters, and now seen in more and more pundits, is not unjustified. Yet like many on here and elsewhere, I will repeat that it's not the technology or the idea itself. It's the mucky little hands of the humans behind it, and their inconsistency and plain unfairness in the application of var, which is driving us to despair. They've found a way to manipulate games not just despite var, but with it.

A terrible weekend for var, and it's not over yet. My team is playing later today and I'm actually not looking forward to it because of var. What on earth are we doing to our game?
 
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