VAR (PL introduction 2019)

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Who knows but then none of us know what they are doing with it 100%

And none of them, either! I get the impression that there is not an identical set of VAR rules in two consecutive games.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I think the major problem is they should have put the investment into trialling it in lower leagues, refining it and getting it better. Instead they chose to trial it in the top flight on TV in full view of the world thus amplifying the teething problems they are having.

It was a success at the World Cup

 

[Celeste]

Is the VAR bloke a qualified premier league ref? Serious question, I have no idea who it is.

At Wembley it was Martin Atkinson! Not sure for other games, but they put it up on the screen before the game started.

 

[bluethrunthru]

It was a success at the World Cup

Yeah but again trialled over all matches in a short space of time. I cannot see how it would work over a full PL programme as it does at the moment - just not the personnel to make it quick enough

 

[Barcon]

At Wembley it was Martin Atkinson! Not sure for other games, but they put it up on the screen before the game started.

Just looked around and apparently it was Chris Kavanagh of Manchester that overturned the rags red card today.
Another quick look shows me that he's never reffed a game involving a Manchester team.

 

[blue moony]

why the hell isnt the clock stopped when it goes to VAR.... it’s a joke they keep the clock running! That’s another thing that refs can manipulate if they want too.....

 

[manchester blue]

I didn't realise that VAR would be used for red cards. Not sure I like that.

 

[give it to gordon]

Of topic abit but how can your run a competition where matches are played under different rules. Example if City were at home home yesterday we might not have gone through !. As it was we were away at a non VAR ground and went through.
If VAR is brought into the fa cup next season it will be interesting how non league club get on installing it.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I didn't realise that VAR would be used for red cards. Not sure I like that.

The whole thing reeks and we are supposed to welcome it like a shiny new, much awaited toy. Unfortunately, many unquestioning lemmings have fallen for it. It should only ever be implemented for the factuals like offsides and goal lines. Anything human and therefore subjective - stick with the officials, at least they are visible and subject to some level of scrutiny.

 

[manchester blue]

The whole thing reeks and we are supposed to welcome it like a shiny new much awaited toy. Unfortunately many unquestioning lemmings have fallen for it. It should only ever be implemented for the factuals like offsides and goal lines. Anything human and therefore subjective - stick with the officials.

Agreed.

 

[BlueHammer85]

The whole thing reeks and we are supposed to welcome it like a shiny new, much awaited toy. Unfortunately, many unquestioning lemmings have fallen for it. It should only ever be implemented for the factuals like offsides and goal lines. Anything human and therefore subjective - stick with the officials, at least they are visible and subject to some level of scrutiny.

But the officials don’t have a clue! Your’re literally saying they should just make up a decision on a spot when they may have not seen a incident - that is and has always been farcical.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Had the Ragamuffins been down at the LIberty yesterday the red card would have stood, and presumably a suspension would follow. Was it a straight red? An appeal, or was it the second yellow. Running a competition that becomes a geographical lottery must be one of the biggest shambles football has seen. Take a bow you mandarins at FArce HQ!

 

[Hart of the Matter]

But the officials don’t have a clue! Your’re literally saying they should just make up a decision on a spot when they may have not seen a incident - that is and has always been farcical.

Or just give a pen and red card and let VAR deal with it (which is exactly what will happen = shambles). The red card should have stood yesterday as not an obvious clear error. It all stinks.

 

[mat]

 

[citytilllidie]

When I saw it live, it looked bad but not a Red, because Lindelof came 'sliding' in, not off the ground and no studs showing.

Jota though, got totally cleaned out, landing heavily on his face.

Atkinson produced a Red, but was then surrounded and next thing it's finger to the ear.

We then saw the replays, Lindelof coming sliding in at pace, out of control, missing the ball and totally taking Jota's legs away, with his thigh / arse cheek.

It was dangerous and Jota was lucky not to suffer an injury.

I heard Keown and the commentator wittering on about 'trailing leg', and didn't know what they were talking about, but got the impression they had overheard Atkinson or lip read what he was saying down the mic.

It didn't look clear and obvious error and could easily have been the Red, Atkinson had issued.

The commentators were coming round to that view when the decision was overturned, obviously subjectively, by Chris Kavanagh, who'd just seen the same replays as us.

Shocking decision

 

[mat]

When I saw it live, it looked bad but not a Red, because Lindelof came 'sliding' in, not off the ground and no studs showing.

Jota though, got totally cleaned out, landing heavily on his face.

Atkinson produced a Red, but was then surrounded and next thing it's finger to the ear.

We then saw the replays, Lindelof coming sliding in at pace, out of control, missing the ball and totally taking Jota's legs away, with his thigh / arse cheek.

It was dangerous and Jota was lucky not to suffer an injury.

I heard Keown and the commentator wittering on about 'trailing leg', and didn't know what they were talking about, but got the impression they had overheard Atkinson or lip read what he was saying down the mic.

It didn't look clear and obvious error and could easily have been the Red, Atkinson had issued.

The commentators were coming round to that view when the decision was overturned, obviously subjectively, by Chris Kavanagh, who'd just seen the same replays as us.

Shocking decision

Kavanagh is a rag IIRC?

Dippers were raging when he got the Dipper Derby about it.

 

[citytilllidie]

In relation to VAR, there was a ballot among PL clubs regarding it's implementation.

It has been mooted that City and five others voted for it to come in, and that 14, voted against it including United and Liverpool.

Has it ever been published who the other 5 were?

Not seen it anywhere but it would be interesting to know why clubs voted against it.

 

[mat]

In relation to VAR, there was a ballot among PL clubs regarding it's implementation.

It has been mooted that City and five others voted for it to come in, and that 14, voted against it including United and Liverpool.

Has it ever been published who the other 5 were?

Not seen it anywhere but it would be interesting to know why clubs voted against it.

 

[Celeste]

Being used for mistaken identity too! This is one of the four areas it will address, the others being penalties, goals and red card incidents!
V useful in our games as the two silvas do look alike!

 

[Machiavelli]

Is that account believable?
I only ask as I’m sure I’d seen a post on here where they’d tweeted “the powers ruling football have decided Man Utd will win the FA Cup” or words to that effect.