VAR (PL introduction 2019)

citytilllidie said:
We saw Sergio nudge the Arsenal defender and score, we all jumped and cheered.
Then, the ref stopped, the scoreboard didn't register and the Arsenal players all surround him. Immediate downer. Even when it wasn't overturned, it took the gloss off.
We were in line for the second, saw Sane off side and potentially in the goalies line, again, same shite. The only one who continued celebrating was Vinny.
So, sack VAR, it's a killer. The feckers don't even know how to use it
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It's only a killer because of the way the muppets are using it. If we had a clear indication at the start of the season as to when, why, and how it would be used across ALL matches, or none(!), and it was made clear to the those paying folk on the terraces, it could only be a good thing, but like all aspects of football governance it's a right fuck up. Some matches have it, some don't! All we know is probably after the game has ended that the ref had someone blowing down his ear and he's 'corrected' a decision, or equally, buggered up a good decision by subbing an incorrect one!

The reasons for not using VAR are spurious at best - it takes the passion out of the game - I'd sooner walk down JMWay after a game knowing that what actually happened on the pitch was reflected in the final score, and it stops the flow! Anybody seen how the flow is deliberately held and contained by a complicit consortium of officials and opposition players the minute a game kicks off at The Etihad and where the opposition are desperate to hang on to a 0-0!

If the FA, PL and PiGMoL had access to omniscience and omnipotence across the ninety odd minutes of a football match they would still manage to fuck the game over.
 
I have had my doubts all along - I do think that the issues are as much to do with how its being implemented as to the concept itself. However one thing I did fear seemed to be happening in last nights game - ie the ref deferring decisions to the VAR system just like in Rugby League where so many tries are referred to the square in the air for the slightest of reasons - rather than assisting the officials it ends up running the game.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I have had my doubts all along - I do think that the issues are as much to do with how its being implemented as to the concept itself. However one thing I did fear seemed to be happening in last nights game - ie the ref deferring decisions to the VAR system just like in Rugby League where so many tries are referred to the square in the air for the slightest of reasons - rather than assisting the officials it ends up running the game.
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That's how it tends to go. Starts out as just being for the clearest errors and then gets mission creep. Same for both rugby codes and cricket, and they aren't fluid games.

If I believed for a second it was only going to be used for when a player is 10 yards offside or punched into the net by the striker, I'd have less of a problem with it.
 
Some of those incidents last night had no need to go to VAR
If the ref's assistant knew the law he would have flagged for a pen rather than a free kick as the law says, it's where the last contact is made

The ref correctly disallowed the pen and booked the taker, but why did he go to VAR!!
 
VAR should only change a decision if it is clearly wrong.
Being offside by an inch or a knee is not sufficient to change a decision.
Contact is contact. It isn't a foul unless it's a mistimed tackle or a deliberate foul.
It's doing my head in.
 
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dickie davies said:
Some of those incidents last night had no need to go to VAR
If the ref's assistant knew the law he would have flagged for a pen rather than a free kick as the law says, it's where the last contact is made

The ref correctly disallowed the pen and booked the taker, but why did he go to VAR!!
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And this is why it's rubbish for football. The officials will always err on the side of caution and the flow of the game is ruined.

Just use a video ref to spot the dangerous play and blatant cheating (now known as Wilshering). The overall aim should be to improve the quality of the officials and professionalism of the players, not highlight their inadequacies.
 
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