VAR (PL introduction 2019)

[BerkshireBlue]

It's working progress for me. Once they realise that the ref doesn't need to see VAR footage then the game won't be slowed down whatsoever. They just need a panel of officials that constantly review the footage for offside goals, dives, pens, serious foul play. The rest of the rules like restarting the game can be constantly updated to reflect the game. It will take 5 years or maybe longer but we will get there. You just have to hang on while the teething problems are smoothed out

 

[BlueHammer85]

It's working progress for me. Once they realise that the ref doesn't need to see VAR footage then the game won't be slowed down whatsoever. They just need a panel of officials that constantly review the footage for offside goals, dives, pens, serious foul play. The rest of the rules like restarting the game can be constantly updated to reflect the game. It will take 5 years or maybe longer but we will get there. You just have to hang on while the teething problems are smoothed out

I agree with this. Unfortunately we have to many moaning fans that scream corruption after every bad decision and have zero patience

 

[Blue Hefner]

Just had Riley on BT sports saying Zahas dive for the penalty would not have gone to VAR and still be a penalty

Did he expand on why? Because it looked like a ‘clear and obvious error’ to me and I believe that is the threshold?

 

[kaz7]

Of course it will

well it didn't in the spain vfrance game
are you just contrary on every thread?

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

well it didn't in the spain vfrance game
are you just contrary on every thread?

As ive said loads of times in this thread its a complete mess in germany and italy. German fans have even been protesting to get rid of it.

And its pretty common sense that it will slow the game down. How would it not? Ive watched dozens of games where theres been a four or five mintue delay in matches so the ref can review a decision.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

It's working progress for me. Once they realise that the ref doesn't need to see VAR footage then the game won't be slowed down whatsoever. They just need a panel of officials that constantly review the footage for offside goals, dives, pens, serious foul play. The rest of the rules like restarting the game can be constantly updated to reflect the game. It will take 5 years or maybe longer but we will get there. You just have to hang on while the teething problems are smoothed out

Still doesnt solve the main issue for me which is how far back you bring the play. If a goal is scored but there was a clear foul five mins before do you dissalow the goal?

 

[caseball]

Using it only on appeal is probably the best way to go but I'd only give them 1. That way they'd only use it if they were pretty sure of getting the right result. People like Sean Dyche wouldn't be able to abuse it and take their cheating to a level that doesn't exist at the moment. He would definitely have gone for it after the first goal and then City probably wouldn't have got the second after the delay to review it and finally award the goal. If coaches lost their only appeal by doing that type of thing, they might think better of it. You could even reward a correct appeal by giving them another to make 2.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Using it only on appeal is probably the best way to go but I'd only give them 1. That way they'd only use it if they were pretty sure of getting the right result. People like Sean Dyche wouldn't be able to abuse it and take their cheating to a level that doesn't exist at the moment. He would definitely have gone for it after the first goal and then City probably wouldn't have got the second after the delay to review it and finally award the goal. If coaches lost their only appeal by doing that type of thing, they might think better of it. You could even reward a correct appeal by giving them another to make 2.

If, after a goal - say Dyche believed there was a earlier foul in the lead up to the goal from 2 mins before - would that count as a correct appeal ? Would the clock go back to the foul ?The fans in the ground won’t have a clue what’s going on

 

[Dubai Blue]

The real problem in football is the calls that referees and their assistants miss, so VAR has to address that in order to be effective in my opinion.

Plus, some of the examples I've seen in Italy and Germany have been farcical (eg. referees reviewing the video and still coming to an obviously incorrect conclusion) so it definitely needs a lot of refining as it's not fit for purpose in its current guise.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Still doesnt solve the main issue for me which is how far back you bring the play. If a goal is scored but there was a clear foul five mins before do you dissalow the goal?

But your talking about something really insignificant in the grand scheme of things. These types of problems will get ironed out as time goes by when weird unexpected things crop up that need solving. So the rules will be elastic for a while before settling down. They need to try things to find out what works and what doesn't that's the only way we'll see progress