VAR (PL introduction 2019)

fuck off, ok, if you've bothered to read the discussion
Had to highlight this part on its own, because either you haven't been reading the posts on this thread, or like many others you're ignoring the ones that don't fit your narrative.
 
So don't fucking patronise me because you didn't read the thread properly. And Blueinsa and FI, jus
Oh, insa and myself tend to get on well but he's never interceded on my behalf as a mod, pretty sure FI doesn't like me.

You're the one not reading the thread though, I've addressed this point about stopping play before. 19 times I think.
 
The VAR reviews every possible penalty incident completely independently of the referee and if the referee has made a clear and obvious mistake informs him at the first available opportunity (may as well remember this one too).

I FUCKING KNOW!

I was responding to a guy who wanted to do it differently, and was pointing out by doing it differently it would be farcical.

For god's sake.
 
I FUCKING KNOW!

I was responding to a guy who wanted to do it differently, and was pointing out by doing it differently it would be farcical.

For god's sake.
1st time I quoted you mate. The first three words.

You haven't been reading the thread.
 
It needs the opportunity for a team to appeal for a review. To stop teams abusing it, they should get one go at it. If they lose the review that's it for that game. They could also be liable for yellow cards as a result of the review. So if Willian thinks he's been hard done to, Chelsea can make the appeal ASAP and it goes to the pitchside monitor. If Willian's got a case, they get a penalty and keep their appeal, if not, no penalty, no more appeals and a possible yellow for Willian. But it gives teams something to turn to if they think the refs are both wrong and will shut them up after the fact. Any complaints and the simple retort is "So why didn't you appeal it?" They'd just have to be pretty sure of their players.
 
Exactly, Willian’s legs both came together as he jumped to instigate the contact. You could see all night how many players Chelsea have who frequently dive.
Pedro’s dive looked very much like a dive because Gunn pulled out leaving no leg for Pedro to initiate contact with, the defender who made contact with Willian left his leg stretched out so Willian had the opportunity to make it look worse than it was. Dives look less like dives if there’s a leg to initiate contact with. Arsehole commentators saying the old “there was contact” bollocks. Morata’s dive was due to being slightly pulled whilst jostling for a loose ball, in this situation I’m not sure why both legs would go from under a player just because of hands/arms on a player’s shoulder/torso? Another blatant dive.

You’re forgetting about the other party though - the defender against Willian was no where near the ball and had his leg firmly stuck out in front of it - whether William initiated contact or not you can’t do that as a defender
 
You’re forgetting about the other party though - the defender against Willian was no where near the ball and had his leg firmly stuck out in front of it - whether William initiated contact or not you can’t do that as a defender

Of course you can. A defender can put his leg anywhere he likes (except up high) as long as it's not touching an opponent.
 
You’re forgetting about the other party though - the defender against Willian was no where near the ball and had his leg firmly stuck out in front of it - whether William initiated contact or not you can’t do that as a defender
Maybe in your head, he stuck his leg out to intercept the traveling ball. What about a player throwing himself in to block?
Of course you can stick a leg out, it’s called an attempted tackle.
 
Corporal Jones in charge of the video. 'Kinell! Herod in charge of the NSPCC and turkeys in charge of the Christmas dinner. You just cannot make up the fuckin' blind alleys down which the FArce, the PL, PiGMol, Uefa and FICKFUFA lead the game of football.

Elleray is suggesting we are in the midst of 'teething problems'! No, David, we are in the midst of sheer bloody incompetence.
 
Riley said the other day that this would mainly be for pens/goals where there was 'an obvious mistake' mistaken identity, violent conduct etc.

We saw in the Leicester game, narrow offsides, changed by V.A.R.

Shearer said Riley told him that was because the incident was close to goal & had it been far away, it wouldn't have been reviewed. So how 'far away' is 'far away' & why is a marginal offside, 'clear and obvious'.

We have seen so few reviews, yet all of them have been marginal calls. So someone can just decide which is a 'marginal call' & which is a 'clear and obvious refereeing mistake' & the same people can decide which is 'violent conduct' & which isn't.

This gives them the option of altering the score of any game they choose to.

This man, is in charge:



How the fuck do you think this is going to go ?
 
Agreed Neville, there's too much that comes down to the opinion of someone rather than a black and white decision. I'd like them to scrap it and just have goal line technology and post match diving bans for blatant diving.

Rugby and cricket have definitely had the shine taken off them because you see a key moment such as a try or a wicket but you know half the time they're going to spend 2 minutes checking it for faults... The IPL T20 cricket tournament, the biggest in the world doesn't actually use video refereeing (DRS in cricket lingo) and for me it's all the better for it. When something exciting happens you know that's set in stone, not that some suit in a box 50 miles away is going to take their time and then make a decision.

Is VAR going to be used in the World Cup this year do we know?
 
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Agreed Neville, there's too much that comes down to the opinion of someone rather than a black and white decision. I'd like them to scrap it and just have goal line technology and post match diving bans for blatant diving.

Rugby and cricket have definitely had the shine taken off them because you see a key moment such as a try or a wicket but you know half the time they're going to spend 2 minutes checking it for faults... The IPL T20 cricket tournament, the biggest in the world doesn't actually use video refereeing (DRS in cricket lingo) and for me it's all the better for it. When something exciting happens you know that's set in stone, not that some suit in a box 50 miles away is going to take their time and then make a decision.

Is VAR going to be used in the World Cup this year do we know?
Pretty sure its decided in the next few days. Be surprised if they use it considering how many problems its caused but it is Fifa....
 
Riley said the other day that this would mainly be for pens/goals where there was 'an obvious mistake' mistaken identity, violent conduct etc.

We saw in the Leicester game, narrow offsides, changed by V.A.R.

Shearer said Riley told him that was because the incident was close to goal & had it been far away, it wouldn't have been reviewed. So how 'far away' is 'far away' & why is a marginal offside, 'clear and obvious'.

We have seen so few reviews, yet all of them have been marginal calls. So someone can just decide which is a 'marginal call' & which is a 'clear and obvious refereeing mistake' & the same people can decide which is 'violent conduct' & which isn't.

This gives them the option of altering the score of any game they choose to.

This man, is in charge:



How the fuck do you think this is going to go ?

Pretty much what ive been saying the whole thread. How is fair some decisions go to VAR and not others?

The only way I can see it being implemented without fucking up the game is some type of challenge system.
 
A clear penalty for Brighton today which could have changed the outcome of the game - can’t blame the Ref for not spotting it as his vision was blocked - yet some are still against the ref getting some help from someone who can tell him in seconds it was a clear penalty. Unbelievable
 

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