VAR (PL introduction 2019)

MillionMilesAway said:
Isn't it just that? It's obvious what they are trying to do:

- a ricochet doesn't count
- this 'natural silhouette' idea
- falling on the ball
- not entirely sure what this relates to, but it's so specific that there may be something in the IFAB video support.

However it will come down to opinion for the second point - the first and third should be easy to ref correctly.
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It's just that when a ricochet or fast near shot hits a hand and everyone misses it, we're all happy to play on.
Then the VAR guy says to his mucker, 'that looks dodgy, let's get the ref to look at it again and see if he wants to change his mind'.
This immediately puts the ref under the cosh and makes him change his mind.
So the joker in the VAR van, possibly now thinking, 'shit, shouldn't have done that', has caused a furore.
Or as in City at Schalke, when everyone was happy continuing with the game, 'let's just tell the ref to award a penalty'!
 
citytilllidie said:
It's just that when a ricochet or fast near shot hits a hand and everyone misses it, we're all happy to play on.
Then the VAR guy says to his mucker, 'that looks dodgy, let's get the ref to look at it again and see if he wants to change his mind'.
This immediately puts the ref under the cosh and makes him change his mind.
So the joker in the VAR van, possibly now thinking, 'shit, shouldn't have done that', has caused a furore.
Or as in City at Schalke, when everyone was happy continuing with the game, 'let's just tell the ref to award a penalty'!
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Massively open to corruption.
 
citytilllidie said:
It's just that when a ricochet or fast near shot hits a hand and everyone misses it, we're all happy to play on.
Then the VAR guy says to his mucker, 'that looks dodgy, let's get the ref to look at it again and see if he wants to change his mind'.
This immediately puts the ref under the cosh and makes him change his mind.
So the joker in the VAR van, possibly now thinking, 'shit, shouldn't have done that', has caused a furore.
Or as in City at Schalke, when everyone was happy continuing with the game, 'let's just tell the ref to award a penalty'!
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Same as the first leg against Spurs. Who honestly was asking for a penalty? I thought, ooh unlucky sergio, but we have a corner.
 
Hart of the Matter said:
VAR has increased the accuracy of decision from 92.5% to 98.1%. in womans world cup which is similar to Mens world cup.
This means a major decision will is missed in two more games a season without VAR than with it. Not every major decision mistake made ends up being match changing.
The question for every one is ... is that improvement worth the shit that comes with VAR?
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That's the average, City will gain much more from its introduction and the Rags with their "most penalty awarded status for 30 years running", will lose the most. Hence why they voted against it...
 
citytilllidie said:
It's just that when a ricochet or fast near shot hits a hand and everyone misses it, we're all happy to play on.
Then the VAR guy says to his mucker, 'that looks dodgy, let's get the ref to look at it again and see if he wants to change his mind'.
This immediately puts the ref under the cosh and makes him change his mind.
So the joker in the VAR van, possibly now thinking, 'shit, shouldn't have done that', has caused a furore.
Or as in City at Schalke, when everyone was happy continuing with the game, 'let's just tell the ref to award a penalty'!
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But that is almost exactly how it is now except with someone prompting a screen review of the incident by the ref; that's fine, and isn't inherently broken.

At the moment there is no evidence that the PL will be skewed by VAR, or that some will get preferential treatment. When there is evidence, then we'll see what that is. All the VAR''d handballs were pretty consistent in the calls, and that's all that can be asked for.

The Schalke incident is a very different matter - that was equipment failure and not reffing failings. I think the procedure in case of not having a screen was hopelessly flawed, and should not happen again, but it's a different error from bias.
 
super_city_si said:
Same as the first leg against Spurs. Who honestly was asking for a penalty? I thought, ooh unlucky sergio, but we have a corner.
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I agree. I wouldn't have minded neither being given. But as long as it's consistent, and as long as it doesn't destroy the game by having loads of them, it can be lived with.
 
Bluearmy said:
That's the average, City will gain much more from its introduction and the Rags with their "most penalty awarded status for 30 years running", will lose the most. Hence why they voted against it...
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It all comes down to how many decisions were wrong. I can't remember all the Utd penalties, but if they are all correct (of course, I doubt they were all clear cut and correct), then complaining looks strange.
 
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