VAR (PL introduction 2019)

[rnblade]

It will be used when it suits it seems. Wait and watch the excuses that come out this season.
Unbelievable Jeff.

 

[Ban-jani]

Really not looking forward to this in the PL next season.

I won’t ever celebrate a goal right away because some **** in a van 3 miles away may have picked something insignificant up and it will still be down to the officials to make the wrong decision.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Really not looking forward to this in the PL next season.

I won’t ever celebrate a goal right away because some **** in a van 300 miles away may have picked something insignificant up and it will still be down to the officials to make the wrong decision.

Edited for accuracy ;-)

 

[deano ou812]

Really not looking forward to this in the PL next season.

I won’t ever celebrate a goal right away because some **** in a van 3 miles away may have picked something insignificant up and it will still be down to the officials to make the wrong decision.

Yip,like rolling back till they find something that looks like a foul to disallow a goal...

 

[Father Paul]

Yip,like rolling back till they find something that looks like a foul to disallow a goal...

Problem is that technology cannot and probably never will be able to categorically decide certain events in a football match. Subjectivity will always be a part of the game and opinions will differ. VAR will create as many arguments as it solves but if it manages to reduce the number of real howlers by refs it just migth prove wortwhile.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Yip,like rolling back till they find something that looks like a foul to disallow a goal...

I expect that they will roll back to a foul not spotted last season and disallow the goal.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Var is trying to run before it can even crawl in football.

Exactly. And FIFA caused that by introducing this all-encompassing version of VAR during a World Cup, of all places.

People are instinctively averse to change, so the way the authorities have gone about introducing VAR is ridiculous. It will never garner popular support because it's drastically changing the nature of the game in one fell swoop.

It should have been brought in piece by piece over a number of years. Start with a season reviewing offside decisions only. Figure out what all the pitfalls are, tweak it and keep repeating. Once it's been fine-tuned and everyone has got used to it, you can then add reviews of penalty/potential penalty incidents for a season. Follow the same process, then finally introduce reviews for all goals scored.

I simply can't get on board with this current version of VAR, but I may have felt differently had it been implemented in stages over 3-5 years. This is what most other sports did, because they understood that it's very difficult to roll things back once they've been introduced. Much better (and easier) to start with the basics that you'll always get right, then begin adding more "controversial" things once you've developed a solid base of support.

It's simple common sense. So it shouldn't come as any surprise that football has chosen to do the opposite.

 

[Dubai Blue]

I have no idea what so ever of the objective of VAR In football now. I thought it was to eliminate clear and obvious errors, but that isn’t the case at all.

Yep, we were essentially lied to. I could handle a system that is used sparingly to correct the kind of glaring errors that occur a handful of times at most each weekend.

But it's being used to re-referee games (something we were assured would never happen), with every call being poured over in minute detail to see if there was the slightest possible infraction. Why even bother with the charade of having on-field referees anymore?

 

[hammocity]

Yep, we were essentially lied to. I could handle a system that is used sparingly to correct the kind of glaring errors that occur at most a handful of times each weekend.

But it's being used to re-referee games (something we were assured would never happen), with every call being poured over in minute detail to see if there was the slightest possible infraction. Why even bother with the charade of having on-field referees anymore?

Spot on, it also depends on the character of the ref when they are asked to review a decision on screen. A ref such as Mike Dean would never admit he originally made a mistake so will always go with his first decision. It’s bollocks and could ruin the game. NFL implemented a form of VAR in 1986 and binned it in 1991. They do have a review system but I don’t have a knowledgeable grasp of NFL to explain it but In the semi final last season there was a huge ref error that prevented the New Orleans Saints from reaching the Super Bowl final, despite that (and its much easier to use VAR in American football with all the stoppages) there’s no chance VAR we’ll be re-implemented in the US.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Spot on, it also depends on the character of the ref when they are asked to review a decision on screen. A ref such as Mike Dean would never admit he originally made a mistake so will always go with his first decision. It’s bollocks and could ruin the game. NFL implemented a form of VAR in 1986 and binned it in 1991. They do have a review system but I don’t have a knowledgeable grasp of NFL to explain it but In the semi final last season there was a huge ref error that prevented the New Orleans Saints from reaching the Super Bowl final, despite that (and its much easier to use VAR in American football with all the stoppages) there’s no chance VAR we’ll be re-implemented in the US.

I didn't know that, so had a read of this: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1666250-the-history-of-instant-replay-in-the-nfl

It's genuinely staggering that the NFL introduced our version of VAR way back in 1986 and then decided it was completely unworkable TWENTY-SEVEN years ago. It finally reemerged in 1999 with a much more manageable "challenge" system that endures to this day.

Here's a proven case study of a sport that simply couldn't get official-led VAR to work in a fair way without killing the supporter experience, so they binned it off and handed authority for reviewing decisions to the players/managers.

So what does FIFA do? It ignores 30 years of valuable experience and ploughs on regardless. The arrogance of football's governing authorities is breathtaking.