It is a good thing in principle,but still open to manipulation,didn’t like it when they talked about ref on pitch has final say over decisions,yet a few minutes later went on about keeping the game going not stop start,and if var ref can assist ref and AVOID using tv monitor all the time then it’s only a good thing,so otherwise pick and chose which incidents to review on pitchside monitor...
The bollocks about handball was baffling,a opposition player could knock your arm up towards the ball in the box,say at a corner with 4-5 players trying to clear yet cause it’s now in an unnatural position it’s a pen,what a load of bollocks ..I agree, whether manipulation or certain referees not being willing to change their minds etc.
The programme didn't cover how off the ball incidents would be dealt with. Also corner grappling.
Swarbrick said it was a yellow it was Clysterpipe Charlie who was arguing.Interesting debate on Sky just now between Neil Swarbrick and Charlie Nicholas about how its being implemented in the PL, seems the media pundits etc were invited to the VAR "shack" to be shown. Nicholas who said he was very sceptical about it all, says he's changed his mind, Swarbrick has said some good things.
I've turned it off now, as they used as an example how Kompany should have been sent off v Liverpool (and of course that would have won them the league), so they can f*ck off, it'll be used against us, unless we hear everything discussed.
I agree after what they said there, but for me until we (fans) can hear the dialogue, I won't trust it won't be used to affect results.If VAR is used as described in that debate show, I think it could be a positive. That being said, however, I'm still sceptical that it won't be overused.
Spot on,he was asked about everyone being able to hear the dialogue between officials like in rugby,swarbrick said it won’t be used but may be incorporated in later updates of the system,as a few years down the line possibly although I can’t see it myself...I agree after what they said there, but for me until we (fans) can hear the dialogue, I won't trust it won't be used to affect results.
In that Vinny decision, it wasn't used, it was just used as an example tonight, who knows what the outcome would have actually been on the night had it been in use ?
Swarbrick can say it would have been left alone now, you can't rewrite history this late, but without it being a decision we can hear as fans, who knows how the decision would have gone on the night in reality ?
Yes fine, but without clarity, ie hearing how VAR make the decision, how do we know he'd have said that on the pitch (or in the booth) at the time ?Swarbrick said it was a yellow it was Clysterpipe Charlie who was arguing.
Yes fine, but without clarity, ie hearing how VAR make the decision, how do we know he'd have said that on the pitch (or in the booth) at the time ?
I want to know how a decision is reached/changed, and if we're going to use the system, why, and that's whether I'm in the stadium or watching on TV.
At the moment, I'm less likely to know as a match going paying fan, than as an armchair watcher, that can't be right ?
Currently I've grave doubts about it all, the early part of that debate started to persuade me it might not be so bad, but by using a poor example from City, and not numerous more dodgy examples of another team(s), it made me think we'll still get shafted as often as is possible.