VAR (PL introduction 2019)

[BerkshireBlue]

Because it doesn't work until the ball goes out, you just know there is going to be a time when there is a penalty shout at one end which is to be reviewed then the ball will go straight up the other end and be a goal for the other team. So when fans and players think they are 1-0 up, it is really still 0-0 and you have to face a penalty.

Will be times too when something is given by VAR that is still contentious.

Think there will be just as much controversy with it in place.

I still don't know why people quote 'what if' scenarios as these will be removed or improved as time goes by it isn't a reason to not implement VAR

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Le Tissier has just fucking nailed it, all the pundits against VAR all played for big clubs, they don’t want the correct decisions giving, just the ones that go in their favour.

Well done Matt.

bingo

 

[moon]

There are a lot of positives


One thing that worries me is in the Chelsea game the ref signalled for a replay.

It took a while for the ball to go out and then probably another minute to review it when the ball went out

Presumably the VAR ref was checking the replay soon as it was signalled

Could see a lot of added time for reviews

 

[BerkshireBlue]

There are a lot of positives


One thing that worries me is in the Chelsea game the ref signalled for a replay.

It took a while for the ball to go out and then probably another minute to review it when the ball went out

Presumably the VAR ref was checking the replay soon as it was signalled

Could see a lot of added time for reviews

Yes they should probably stop the game for penalty decisions only.

 

[aguero93:20]

Because it doesn't work until the ball goes out, you just know there is going to be a time when there is a penalty shout at one end which is to be reviewed then the ball will go straight up the other end and be a goal for the other team. So when fans and players think they are 1-0 up, it is really still 0-0 and you have to face a penalty.

Will be times too when something is given by VAR that is still contentious.

Think there will be just as much controversy with it in place.

^^^ I think people bringing up this scenario have forgotten that we were done in exactly this fashion against Spurs last season by a corrupt referee. With VAR, the ref would have just given that penalty.

 

[mat]

bingo

+2

I wonder how many titles rags wouldn't have won with VAR?

 

[mat]

https://you-are-the-ref.com/hacketts-verdict-var-signal/

Another good blog by Keith Hackett.

It's obvious PiGMOL don't want it.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

There are a lot of positives


One thing that worries me is in the Chelsea game the ref signalled for a replay.

It took a while for the ball to go out and then probably another minute to review it when the ball went out

Presumably the VAR ref was checking the replay soon as it was signalled

Could see a lot of added time for reviews

Good. We only get around 55-60minutes of ball in play at the moment so why not give us a few more minutes at the end.

A lot of teams take 40-60seconds over every goal kick and free kick, 10-30seconds over throw ins... I can wait a minute for a VAR decision as well, st least I know something right will come of it because nothing right comes from time wasting.

 

[BlueHammer85]

First VAR goal given tonight - flagged offside, it was very tight. Ref checked VAR and goal given. How can anyone be against this ?

 

[BerkshireBlue]

First VAR goal given tonight - flagged offside, it was very tight. Ref checked VAR and goal given. How can anyone be against this ?

because.... erm.... you know .......it won't work.......erm..... it would cause confusion......erm.......it slows the game down.......erm what if the ball goes out of play 10 minutes after the incident...... erm.... it doesn't work in the Bundesliga......erm....

actually there is no excuse to not bring it in. It's already cleared up several things or several matches that might or might not have been given with a 100% record and the best thing about it is will only get better and better. Roll it out already

 

[Fame Monster]

First VAR goal given tonight - flagged offside, it was very tight. Ref checked VAR and goal given. How can anyone be against this ?

I'm a huge fan of VAR, still am and probably always will be due to the shockingly inept referees that have been ruining football, but that goal looked dodgy as fuck to me.

Look how the lines are drawn on the pitch, they're not parallel at all. If the yellow line is the same as the blue line that runs parallel to the 18 yard box, Iheanacho's knee and therefore Iheanacho is offside. Couple it with the fact that they got a disgraceful 98th minute penalty against us in the League Cup (after an unprecedented 8 minutes of added time) plus no retrospective punishment for Gray, it's clear to me that they've got someone inside the FA masterminding these decisions.

 

[City Raider]

Another bit of history for Kelechi. Wasnt he first 4th sub?

 

[Clercqs]

I don't know if the FA will use it the same as in Italy but there it sucks and many hates it. And personally I think VAR is great for offside calls and clear dives/foul goals but the problem will be situations when it's 50/50. Then you'll just get extra mad at the ref and it will slow the game down a lot.

 

[vmsuhail]

Iheanacho looks offside to me (his palm and knee). How is this the right decision ? Is it because of the benefit of the doubt given to attacking player ?

Edit : Sorry! That pic by 'Fame Monster' is not taken at the correct moment. The pass was already made. Checked daily mail and it's the right decision. :)

 

[salfordbluetrue]

from what i have seen the main problem in Europe with VAR is the time it takes to make a decision , the main problem in England will be the people ruining the system , it will be the same people who could not decide whether Zaha dived or fell over, or Lukaku meant to kick out or was it accidental

 

[flook]

clear and obvious error?

 

[Gazza]

It may have been covered previously but surely now in a match covered by VAR a player carrying on and scoring after the ref has blown his whistle can no longer be booked for time wasting - he will say he was scoring just in case VAR later proved he wasn't off-side.

 

[Hart of the Matter]

This is shit. Do teams just play on even if offside flag goes up. Do they play on and try and score in the hope the call was wrong? If decision turns out correct is time added on for the time played on as well as that for VAR? How long can they play on for before the ref decides to pull play back?
Last night was straight forward. Most situations will not be. A crock of shit open to abuse/fraud.

 

[SWP's back]

I'm a huge fan of VAR, still am and probably always will be due to the shockingly inept referees that have been ruining football, but that goal looked dodgy as fuck to me.

Look how the lines are drawn on the pitch, they're not parallel at all. If the yellow line is the same as the blue line that runs parallel to the 18 yard box, Iheanacho's knee and therefore Iheanacho is offside. Couple it with the fact that they got a disgraceful 98th minute penalty against us in the League Cup (after an unprecedented 8 minutes of added time) plus no retrospective punishment for Gray, it's clear to me that they've got someone inside the FA masterminding these decisions.

Were you joking or pissed when you wrote the bit on bold?

 

[SWP's back]

Iheanacho looks offside to me (his palm and knee). How is this the right decision ? Is it because of the benefit of the doubt given to attacking player ?

Edit : Sorry! That pic by 'Fame Monster' is not taken at the correct moment. The pass was already made. Checked daily mail and it's the right decision. :)

His Palm can’t be offside anyway.