That isn't the issue, fine use VAR to decide a penalty decision but what if a throw in was given the wrong way before the penalty decision. Do you bring the play back?If you watch on the tele you’ve already been watching VAR for years in the form of TV replays, most people after watching a replay can decide what the correct call should’ve been. The problem will arise with who interprets the decisions, like on BT when the ex refs come on and say pen or no pen, or the twats who couldn’t decide to ban Lakaku for his double kick. The ruling powers don’t want technology to come in and take away their power so they can continue to deliberately fuck things up for some teams and carry on ruling in the favour of other teams. That’s why they resisted goal line technology for years and years.
They shouldn’t have to stop the game for that, a message in the refs earpiece should do that in seconds. Players waste more time dicking about, going off slowly after being subbed and pretending to be injured all the time.That isn't the issue, fine use VAR to decide a penalty decision but what if a throw in was given the wrong way before the penalty decision. Do you bring the play back?
There are plenty more issue with it but thats the main one for me.
It's a nice idea, but as the Juve/Torino derby fiasco recently showed, the system will still be at the mercy of the pig headed officials involved. In case you missed it, Juve scored, Torino objected because there had been a clear foul in the build up, the ref reviewed it on the VAR and, despite the aforementioned foul having been absolutely blatant, incredibly decided to uphold his original decision to give a goal. As we've also seen with the Lukaku 'kick in the cobblers' non-ban, the VAR will be a waste of time, because it will be open to ridiculous interpretation. Last minute at the Swamp, Aguero gets scythed down by De Gea in the box, and City play their appeal. Can you honestly see Madley, Taylor, Jones et al, awarding us a penalty on review? Not a chance
Think you misunderstood my point, its not the stopping of the game I have issues with (although waiting five minutes for a ref to review a decision isnt fun). Its the question of far back do you bring the play in relation to goals or penalty decisions etc, if a goal is scored but five minutes before a player was fouled do you cancel out the goal?They shouldn’t have to stop the game for that, a message in the refs earpiece should do that in seconds. Players waste more time dicking about, going off slowly after being subbed and pretending to be injured all the time.
so why are german fans protesting against it?for the naysayers, apparently it's working great in Serie A and the Bundesliga there are loads of positive outcomes.
for example:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ahead-but-var-ensures-they-draw-with-sassuolo
I suggest you all read this report and watch the video
http://www.espn.com/soccer/blog/esp...working-well-in-serie-a-bundesliga-mls-so-far
"Roberto Rosetti, the former referee heading the experiment in Serie A, says an average of three mistakes are being avoided every match day. Although there could be greater transparency, on the whole, it is changing things for the better. Players know they are being watched: The number of fouls is down from 260 to 203. Yellow and red cards have decreased and players have, for the most part, stopped protesting decisions because they know the tape never lies."
I watch bundasliga and Serie A quite often and theres issues with it every week.
Thought James Richardson the person who used to host the European football show on BT Sport (who was initially for VAR) summed it up best, "if you view football as entertainment then VAR will be death".
They can trail and tweak it for as many years at they want but imo the free flowing nature of football will make it impossible to implement without it severely changing the nature of the game.
I think you’re getting ahead of yourself. Using it to rule out diving, penalties awarded incorrectly and mistaken identity would be a start and then take it from there. The fact incorrect decisions are still being made by referees would tell you something needs to be used to help get more things right. You sound like a “if it isn’t broke don’t fix it” type? But it is broke and it does need fixing. The problem will be the idiots interpreting the decisions so not much will change anyway.Think you misunderstood my point, its not the stopping of the game I have issues with (although waiting five minutes for a ref to review a decision isnt fun). Its the question of far back do you bring the play in relation to goals or penalty decisions etc, if a goal is scored but five minutes before a player was fouled do you cancel out the goal?
At the end of the day VAR wont make the game fair unless you review every single debatable decision as they all affect the outcome of the game. Why only single out certain decisions?
so why are german fans protesting against it?
That will be the problem with it. All the tech used in other sports seem to be great in arriving at the correct decisions.because the guy running it was corrupt. He's been suspended now
Im not denying it will help with a lot of decision it will just make football less entertaining to watch.Of course there are issues with it it's only been going for 5 months.
In Serie A alone:
3 mistakes are being corrected per match, fouls reduced, red cards reduced, yellow cards reduced, bad tackling reduced, player safety increased, protesting time reduced, VAR viewing time reduced. What more do you want?