VAR thread 2022/23

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I see Sky is doing it’s bit by gaslighting us all into believing VAR is getting better and better lol.

Is there anything in life that you aren’t cynical about?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

10+ years ago? One example. Is this the basis for your wider conspiracy theory or do you have any other evidence?

I was suggesting a reason WHY there might actually be a lack of evidence.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Because the co-commentators have a big say on how an incident is perceived. They give opinion, while the main commentator gives facts, and descriptive visualisations.
The opinion of the co-commentator can cause the refs serious issues if the weight of Public opinion is with them.
Neville and carragher absolutely know this and play up to what they (and their employers) want to see highlighted.
A classic example of this is the Mane assault on Ederson. Neville said "the game has gone" when Mane received a red card. He received the card, yes; but the talk afterwards, and til this day is it was not a red card.
If Neville had have said it was a blatant red and should be a long ban, this sending off would have been cast off into football history and not brought up again. But what you see is fans compering Haaland foot up challenge for the ball against Villa as in the same bracket as Mane's kung-fu kick.
So, you see. Var listening to commentary helps them feel the mood of a challenge. They also know that, especially in games involving Liverpool and Utd, any big decision going against them will be repeated, and repeated, and repeated on sky channels and in the press. They absolutely do not want bad press.
Remember the Aguero retrospective ban for a high elbow against a team (West Ham?) at the business end of the league season? Purely down to media intervention.
If you believe the media, the TV companies, the Premier league, and the red top teams don't circle wank each other, then you are surely deluded.

Lol. You give Neville and Carragher too much credit.

The Mane and Haaland incidents were compared as it isn’t often that feet meet heads over 5 foot in the air. They deemed Mane’s red card as harsh and no one outside of some fans thought Haaland should have been sent off, so not sure why you are highlighting it.

Aguero got banned for the intent of his elbow. We all remember it being on a loop on SSN, but it didn’t change the fact it was a dangerous action. We beat the rags anyway.

If you believe your last sentence, then I have no idea why you watch football anymore. We’ve still won the league 80% of the time in the past 5 years.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I was suggesting a reason WHY there might actually be a lack of evidence.

Yeah, ok. Maybe it’s just me struggling to find you objective because of your total bias.

 

[blueinsa]

Is there anything in life that you aren’t cynical about?

If there is I will be sure to discuss it in the relevant thread ;-)

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Do you think the objectives are written on the walls of Stockley Park or do you think maybe what the former CEO said 5 years or so ago may not be relevant today?

It‘s not working in any case. We’ve won the league 4 out of 5.
The most commercially successful club won the league last season, seemingly in spite of VAR.

The problem with using something like VAR to implement a 'strategic plan' is that if you make it too obvious, the game is up. That's how most cheats get caught. Either that of they run out of luck.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

If there is I will be sure to discuss it in the relevant thread ;-)

So no.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

The problem with using something like VAR to implement a 'strategic plan' is that if you make it too obvious, the game is up. That's how most cheats get caught. Either that of they run out of luck.

Awesome. VAR is corrupt, but not noticeably so.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Yeah, ok. Maybe it’s just me struggling to find you objective because of your total bias.

You appear to be in the 'nobody can prove cheating so it must be okay' camp, and I have a different point of view. That isn't 'total bias'.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Awesome. VAR is corrupt, but not noticeably so.

You get out of the wrong side of bed this morning? you do appear to be a bit tetchy.