VAR thread 2022/23

[Stephen230]

And PIGMOL are well known for their intelligence, perspicacity, insight, judgement and all round expertise.
Carry on.

I’m still waiting for someone to give a theory of why the VAR would want to hear the commentary?

 

[KS55]

I’m still waiting for someone to give a theory of why the VAR would want to hear the commentary?

They like the sound of Spitty’s voice, la.

 

[gman07]

I thought the new system worked a treat yesterday, decisioin shown for all to see. No fucking wonky lines drawn for ever, quick and easy... it was smooth i thought

 

[Octavian]

I thought the new system worked a treat yesterday, decisioin shown for all to see. No fucking wonky lines drawn for ever, quick and easy... it was smooth i thought

Aye, didn’t even notice it and just thought the linesman were making the decisions.

Would have been interesting if it were a tight call tho!

 

[blueinsa]

I see Sky is doing it’s bit by gaslighting us all into believing VAR is getting better and better lol.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I see Sky is doing it’s bit by gaslighting us all into believing VAR is getting better and better lol.

on SSN? Seen that has to laugh

 

[blueinsa]

on SSN? Seen that has to laugh

No connection whatsoever though between the PL, PiGMOB and Sky….

 

[burning blue soul]

I’m still waiting for someone to give a theory of why the VAR would want to hear the commentary?

Because the co-commentators have a big say on how an incident is perceived. They give opinion, while the main commentator gives facts, and descriptive visualisations.
The opinion of the co-commentator can cause the refs serious issues if the weight of Public opinion is with them.
Neville and carragher absolutely know this and play up to what they (and their employers) want to see highlighted.
A classic example of this is the Mane assault on Ederson. Neville said "the game has gone" when Mane received a red card. He received the card, yes; but the talk afterwards, and til this day is it was not a red card.
If Neville had have said it was a blatant red and should be a long ban, this sending off would have been cast off into football history and not brought up again. But what you see is fans compering Haaland foot up challenge for the ball against Villa as in the same bracket as Mane's kung-fu kick.
So, you see. Var listening to commentary helps them feel the mood of a challenge. They also know that, especially in games involving Liverpool and Utd, any big decision going against them will be repeated, and repeated, and repeated on sky channels and in the press. They absolutely do not want bad press.
Remember the Aguero retrospective ban for a high elbow against a team (West Ham?) at the business end of the league season? Purely down to media intervention.
If you believe the media, the TV companies, the Premier league, and the red top teams don't circle wank each other, then you are surely deluded.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Mark Halsey admitted he'd been asked to alter a match report and he was fairly quickly shut down. No doubt reminded of the NDA he signed. The press quickly dropped the story (injunctions from the PiGMOL perhaps?) and it's largely been forgotten about. It SHOULD have been a huge story, but it ended up being a wet fart.

I wonder how many other stories have been quashed? Twattenburg has allegedly been up to all sorts, and indeed his sharp exit from the PL should have set the alarm bells ringing, but again it never really went anywhere.

With all the money swilling around in the PL the lawyers will be all over anyone who hints at an expose, and you can GUARENTEE anyone involved in VAR will be NDA'd up to the eyeballs.

10+ years ago? One example. Is this the basis for your wider conspiracy theory or do you have any other evidence?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Tbf, it's a little far-fetched to suggest VAR is out to stop City from being champions. As the more "open-minded" on here have pointed out, all fans feel bias against their club.

It isn't far-fetched, however, to suggest that the PL has some strategic objectives to maintain and increase the value of the "product", for example:
- new name occasionally on the trophy
- no one-club dominance over a long period
- close competition in the final few weeks
- most commercially successful clubs at the top of the table
- United and Liverpool in the mix, or at least A mix, at the end of the season
- no red cards in flagship matches unless absolutely necessary.

These all make strategic sense, I guess. Does anyone really think it isn't possible that referees and VAR may be advised to be more or less lenient in interpreting the laws and interpretations on a game-by-game basis to assist the PL with these strategic objectives?

The only way to show that isn't happening is to be completely transparent in the way referees and VAR operate.

Do you think the objectives are written on the walls of Stockley Park or do you think maybe what the former CEO said 5 years or so ago may not be relevant today?

It‘s not working in any case. We’ve won the league 4 out of 5.
The most commercially successful club won the league last season, seemingly in spite of VAR.