VAR thread 2022/23

[SebastianBlue]

Exactly - if there’s a conspiracy to benefit Liverpool/Man Utd with the use of VAR - they’ve cocked it right up. They can’t even give a dodgy penalty to Liverpool this season from a trademark Salah dive

That editing of his post is doing a lot of work. ;-)

 

[blue by birth]

That's where the "active users" designation comes in.

I am sure we'll soon get the ole Bluemoon contrarian push in voting as people read the debate in here, which will see @BlueHammer85 do a victory lap. ;-)

Voted yes but Var may over rule it...

 

[Blueknows]

Voted yes but Var may over rule it...

But if you were at either ground you'd be non the wiser cos neither of them have a big screen

 

[Bill]

Relegation ? European spot ? Of course decisions can affect any club - very condescending

no chance of either . your best hope is the ESL.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I've voted NO in the poll.

I don't think that VAR was solely brought in to benefit the 2 teams in question. I do think those 2 teams (Liverpool more than the Rag's) have had a lot of favourable outcomes, more than most and generally at key moments in games, when they've been on the back foot or struggling to break teams down.

The implementation of VAR was inevitable. Fans have been wanting it for years, and rightly so. HOWEVER, the difference between what we were told would be implemented and reality are poles apart,

Firstly, the camera frame rates for offside decision potentially have a HUGE margin of error (depending on speed and direction of players), but they still debate toenails being on/offside as and when it suits them.

Secondly, it is shrouded in the upmost secrecy. The way the communications are handled between officials often leave fans wondering just who is controlling the game at times (Remeber Foden's STONE WALL PEN against Southampton in the 5-2 when the ref didn't give it and VAR pretty much instantly said 'No Penalty'? EVERYONE in the ground knew that was bullshit, including their fans). The fact the authorities have been dragging their heels in releasing the comm's SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Thirdly, the 'Clear & Obvious get-out clause is COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE.

Given that, VAR is WIDE OPEN for manipulation, and there have been some decisions on occasions that have left me thinking, rightly or wrongly that the only logical conclusion is corrupt intent.

 

[SebastianBlue]

no chance of either . your best hope is the ESL.

Harsh on @BlueHammer85 -- I think his English is fairly good.

 

[BlueHammer85]

no chance of either . your best hope is the ESL.

Last couple seasons we’ve reached Europe - so yes officials/VAR decisions affect up

 

[Colin Bell (genuine name)]

That had nothing to do with phases of play. That’s just muddying the waters. They decided, rightly or as I’m sure most City fans would think, wrongly, that it wasn’t handball. If they’d decided it was handball, everything that happened after that would have been irrelevant, no matter how many phases of play there had been before play was stopped.

I have to disagree with you on this one. It was the inaugural season of VAR and Dermot Gallagher distinctly mentioned that the goal was good because Manchester City had the chance to reset. The argument at the time was how far back in play do you go to rule a goal out or to find a foul.

VAR has obviously evolved since then as they are allowing passages of play to come to a conclusion before raising the flag for example.

There would be no argument to justify that this wasn’t a handball.

It’s yet another example as to how PGMOL and the rest are manipulating the game.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I have to disagree with you on this one. It was the inaugural season of VAR and Dermot Gallagher distinctly mentioned that the goal was good because Manchester City had the chance to reset. The argument at the time was how far back in play do you go to rule a goal out or to find a foul.

VAR has obviously evolved since then as they are allowing passages of play to come to a conclusion before raising the flag for example.

There would be no argument to justify that this wasn’t a handball.

It’s yet another example as to how PGMOL and the rest are manipulating the game.

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I'm fucking fuming again after seeing that.

CUNTS!!!

 

[Stephen230]

I have to disagree with you on this one. It was the inaugural season of VAR and Dermot Gallagher distinctly mentioned that the goal was good because Manchester City had the chance to reset. The argument at the time was how far back in play do you go to rule a goal out or to find a foul.

VAR has obviously evolved since then as they are allowing passages of play to come to a conclusion before raising the flag for example.

There would be no argument to justify that this wasn’t a handball.

It’s yet another example as to how PGMOL and the rest are manipulating the game.

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I think you’re misremembering mate. Because that was one of the few trips to Anfield I’ve missed and remember watching it on television. And after Liverpool scored they went back and showed multiple replays of the ‘handball’ until they eventually decided it wasn’t. Only then did the referee point to the centre circle for the goal. Not really important now but I’m sure under todays handball guidelines it would have been given and the goal chalked off.