No, VAR can intervene even if the referee does not give a decision. In fact, that was the main reason given for VAR: to pick up infringements the ref couldn’t see.
This is not remotely true.This isn’t true. The VAR can only review decisions made by the referee. There is no provision for the referee deferring a decision to the VAR. He must t always make an on field decision first.
This isn’t true. The VAR can only review decisions made by the referee. There is no provision for the referee deferring a decision to the VAR. He must t always make an on field decision first.
This is not remotely true.
VAR can (and has) intervene when a referee misses an incident, such as with challenges or handballs in the box. Also with potential red card challenges or violent altercations.
Even the act of not calling something they saw is a decision by the ref, so your false logic doesn’t even hold up.
VAR can ask the referee to review many types of incidents, whether the ref saw it and made a decision on the pitch or not.
The ‘clear and obvious error’ threshold creates massive grey area, though, giving far too much leeway to the referee and opportunity for influencing matches.
No, that is not what I was saying. Referees should not be doing that under the current rules.May be semantics re-reading your previous post. VAR spotting an incident a referee had missed is not him making the original decision. The referee has made the decision it wasn’t an offence by virtue of not giving it.
I ( maybe mistakenly ) read your post as meaning a referee can defer a decision to the VAR to make to make the original decision.
Haven't we been informed that VAR has indicated that the ref needs to 'look at this'? It might be a penalty or a red card. He can then go over to the telly and decide, but I'm certain that that has happened in previous games.This isn’t true. The VAR can only review decisions made by the referee. There is no provision for the referee deferring a decision to the VAR. He must t always make an on field decision first.
Oleks looked offside (at least as much as Mahrez was earlier).Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha...
THAT'S how hard VAR will look when they are DESPERATE to give the goal.
No, that is not what I was saying. Referees should not be doing that under the current rules.
Though, now that you’ve brought it up, I do think there is a case to be made that some referees are effectively doing that now by choosing not to make decisions on the pitch and waiting for VAR to review the non-decisions.
Many of the newer referees especially seem more reluctant to make big calls on the pitch.
It looked to me like they'd already made their decision, but dragged out the check to give it an air of legitimacy.Oleks looked offside (at least as much as Mahrez was earlier).