VAR thread 2022/23

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Alan Harper's Tash said:
Which I totally get, but every single decision made in life is open to corruption, so whatever you introduce anywhere you could debate the same thing for.
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Of course you can never eliminate corruption entirely. No reasonable person in this thread is arguing that you can.

But there is a big difference between the current state of things (ripe for unaccountable incompetence and manipulation), and a reformed, more transparent state, which offers far fewer opportunities for such negligence and malfeasance.

Again, there are repeated reductionist attempts to obliterate the nuance of this debate and narrow to a “it’s either this or no VAR, which is it?”
 
SebastianBlue said:
Of course you can never eliminate corruption entirely. No reasonable person in this thread is arguing that you can.

But there is a big difference between the current state of things (ripe for unaccountable incompetence and manipulation), and a reformed, more transparent state, which offers far fewer opportunities for such negligence and malfeasance.

Again, there are repeated reductionist attempts to obliterate the nuance of this debate and narrow to a “it’s either this or no VAR, which is it?”
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Howard Webb is taking over at the World Cup, and I have a reasonable amount of faith he will be more competent at running things than Mike Riley.

Not only was he a better ref, he sounds intelligent enough in the few media appearances he's had and he simply must be more in touch with the modern game than Riley who hasn't refereed a game since 2008/09.
 
SebastianBlue said:
Of course you can never eliminate corruption entirely. No reasonable person in this thread is arguing that you can.

But there is a big difference between the current state of things (ripe for unaccountable incompetence and manipulation), and a reformed, more transparent state, which offers far fewer opportunities for such negligence and malfeasance.

Again, there are repeated reductionist attempts to obliterate the nuance of this debate and narrow to a “it’s either this or no VAR, which is it?”
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I’ve said all along that it needs adapting. You seem to think I love the system as it is, which is incorrect.

If they won’t change the system, I’d rather bin it than keep it as it is.

That was my thinking, not it must be this or that.
 
domalino said:
Howard Webb is taking over at the World Cup, and I have a reasonable amount of faith he will be more competent at running things than Mike Riley.

Not only was he a better ref, he sounds intelligent enough in the few media appearances he's had and he simply must be more in touch with the modern game than Riley who hasn't refereed a game since 2008/09.
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It’s a low bar, to be fair.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
The ref did let it go, to be fair. If the VAR hadn’t got involved, that would have been that.
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Fully expected them to get involved.

Fully expected the goal to be ruled out.

Was just stating a fact about what we have seen so far this season and heard from commentary re contact like that.
 
It was a foul, but what did the ref see in the replay that he couldn’t see from 3 yards away? Referees should get an automatic 1 match ban and no wages if they need a replay for such an obvious offence.
 
In the olden days pre VAR the challenge would be classed as six of one and half a dozen of the other, falling over in them circumstances didn't need a replay of overturning a decision
 
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