Vat on Independent school fees?

[bluenova]

I have a solution for this. All these schools could become genuine charities and teach pupils for free, as many of their founders intended. (Eton and Chethams for certain sure.) They could be supported by generous donations from Tories, on which tax relief would be available. Winner, winner chicken dinner.

Except that if anyone could attend for free, these schools would no longer be bastions of privilege, would they? And that's what this is all about.

Perhaps they could also have reverse selection - taking the pupils most in need, as a normal charity would do.

It always 'amuses' me, that the 'best' state school near me, is a church school, and has pages and pages of entrance requirements. The criteria ensure that people go to Church and help out, mostly to get their kids into the school, while also being onerous enough to indirectly select less poor kids.

I sometimes wonder if that's what Jesus would have wanted?

 

[blueinsa]

University students next up on the Reeves and Starmer hit list.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

We are all blues…

Some people on here need to show a bit more respect to each other….or a bit more restraint.

 

[blueparrot]

The dumbing down of everything really. I don’t like mentioning morals really, but they have deteriorated, stemming I believe from what’s thrust at us in the msm. I can’t put my finger on when it started. Don’t get me wrong at lot has improved, more equality for women in my lifetime, men more involved in family life, all good. More acceptance of some minorities. But everything seems to have gone too far now. Celebrities seem to be dictating what our children should aspire to. I could go on, but I have to try and switch off as it makes me sad so perhaps like a lot of people I don’t do much about it.

Don't know what you are seeing but my 2 children and their friends all early 20s seem to be having a great lfe and most things better than they were for me in the late 70s early 80s.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Once overseas students were limited, tuition fees rising for U.K. students was inevitable.

Most student loans aren’t repaid anyway, so it won’t affect many.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

University students next up on the Reeves and Starmer hit list.

Hasn't she also 'hit' private nurseries? Do these come under the label 'independent' schools. I would think these 'private' nurseries have only sprouted up because state provision is abysmal.

 

[bluenova]

University students next up on the Reeves and Starmer hit list.

It's only a year since the Tories made changes to repayment of loans, which meant that many students face a 50% increase in how much they paid back. https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/students/student-loans-england-plan-5/

This change to the upfront fees, means that only those that pay off the full loan, which is the better off graduates, will see any change at all. Even then, it's a small fraction of the change that the Tories brought in, in 2023.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Hasn't she also 'hit' private nurseries? Do these come under the label 'independent' schools. I would think these 'private' nurseries have only sprouted up because state provision is abysmal.

No, no, yes.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Hasn't she also 'hit' private nurseries? Do these come under the label 'independent' schools. I would think these 'private' nurseries have only sprouted up because state provision is abysmal.

As local govt can barely cope providing for compulsory education from 5, voluntary provision before that is bound to be inadequate.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Don't know what you are seeing but my 2 children an their freinds all early 20s seem to be having a great lfe and most things better than they were for me in the late 70s eaerly 80s.

Well said.
It’s the moaning of bitter old people who cannot cope with change that has gone on since the ancient Greeks.