Vat on Independent school fees?

bluenova said:
I suspect when you start off by calling people "thick cunts", you aren't going to get the considered response you might have hoped for.
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It’s quite the trick how posters are able to ignore the majority of posts calling posters thick and cunts yet get all uppity about it when it’s aimed at them.
 
BobKowalski said:
I see no reason why a business such as a private school should have a VAT exemption on its business income. Other than it benefits those who send their kids to private schools and who, by sheer coincidence, also decide tax laws.
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Why do nurseries and universities have a VAT exemption?
 
metalblue said:
Whom did I call a thick ****? For anyone to have considered my post was directed at them they would have to consider themselves both thick and a ****.

I wouldn’t dream to suggest any individual on here was both those things.
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I didn't suggest that you directly called people on here thick cunts. I was suggesting that if you set the level of debate with that first line, you're unlikely to get people to take the rest of your comment seriously.
 
blueinsa said:
It’s quite the trick how posters are able to ignore the majority of posts calling posters thick and cunts yet get all uppity about it when it’s aimed at them.
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There are people on here who will regularly call everyone they don't agree with a ****, and tend to get treated with the lack of respect they deserve.

@metalblue doesn't usually call people 'thick cunts', so I was just suggesting to him that he shouldn't be surprised when the replies to his post didn't engage with his arguments.
 
Going into May and still no stories about state schools inundated with private school VAT refugees and the few stories that did the rounds of schools closing were easily debunked if you googled the local press and found they made the announcements they were closing last summer and blamed it on other rising costs like heating and teacher salaries and were already well under the budgeted school roll. Maybe those hard working parents just worked that bit harder
 
bluethrunthru said:
Going into May and still no stories about state schools inundated with private school VAT refugees and the few stories that did the rounds of schools closing were easily debunked if you googled the local press and found they made the announcements they were closing last summer and blamed it on other rising costs like heating and teacher salaries and were already well under the budgeted school roll. Maybe those hard working parents just worked that bit harder
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The impact of pupils moving to state schools will be seen in tranches:

- after the current academic year end (parents would not move children during a school year)
- some parents whose kids are in s4,s5 will make do and keep the kids in current schools given it’s a pain for 1-2 years and not waste all their hard work of 9-10 years at private schools
- intake in primary independent schools is down by approx 10% across Scotland in 2025/26
, 7% across most of England excluding London where intake is up by 1-2%
- around 8% of teachers are being made redundant across 3 schools in Scotland that I know personally and will update the figures once I have the benchmarking data (sensitive information that isn’t readily available yet)
- number of schools are/have taking/taken teachers out of the SPPA pensions because they cannot continue to afford high pension contributions of 26%. Teachers are the losers there. The latest pay rise of 4.27% in September 2024 was not given to all teachers and would be similar in 2025.
- Most of the schools have not charged the full 20% vat to parents this year and will not charge in 2025/26. Some of them will charges 15%, some 10%, some 5.5% depending on individual scenarios but they are paying the difference out of their own imaginary pocket (savings from staff redundancies, changes in pension schemes, reducing/halting capital expenditure, utilising trust funds that are usually kept for bursaries but now unrestricted funds are being utilised to pay for operational shortfalls and this can continue for a period but not indefinite). And cutting down on extra curricular activities which is one of the main extras offered by private schools v state schools.
 
arbabarshad said:
The impact of pupils moving to state schools will be seen in tranches:

- after the current academic year end (parents would not move children during a school year)
- some parents whose kids are in s4,s5 will make do and keep the kids in current schools given it’s a pain for 1-2 years and not waste all their hard work of 9-10 years at private schools
- intake in primary independent schools is down by approx 10% across Scotland in 2025/26
, 7% across most of England excluding London where intake is up by 1-2%
- around 8% of teachers are being made redundant across 3 schools in Scotland that I know personally and will update the figures once I have the benchmarking data (sensitive information that isn’t readily available yet)
- number of schools are/have taking/taken teachers out of the SPPA pensions because they cannot continue to afford high pension contributions of 26%. Teachers are the losers there. The latest pay rise of 4.27% in September 2024 was not given to all teachers and would be similar in 2025.
- Most of the schools have not charged the full 20% vat to parents this year and will not charge in 2025/26. Some of them will charges 15%, some 10%, some 5.5% depending on individual scenarios but they are paying the difference out of their own imaginary pocket (savings from staff redundancies, changes in pension schemes, reducing/halting capital expenditure, utilising trust funds that are usually kept for bursaries but now unrestricted funds are being utilised to pay for operational shortfalls and this can continue for a period but not indefinite). And cutting down on extra curricular activities which is one of the main extras offered by private schools v state schools.
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It beggars belief that private sector teachers were ever given access to the teachers’ pension scheme or govt mandated state sector pay rises.
 
Following on from the suspicious Telegraph story earlier in the thread about the woman earning £12500 and still sending her kids to private school, they've had to withdraw a fake article.

I don't know if anyone else saw this article pushed on social media:

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holidays.jpg

Just came up on The Rest is Entertainment. The picture was a stock picture from 2012. The people in the article didn't exist, and it was basically written by AI with a real journalist's name attached. They're literally and knowingly publishing fake news on this topic now to draw clicks.



And story
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Following on from the suspicious Telegraph story earlier in the thread about the woman earning £12500 and still sending her kids to private school, they've had to withdraw a fake article.

I don't know if anyone else saw this article pushed on social media:

we-earn-345k-but-soaring-private-school-fees-mean-we-cant-v0-_-1Qhdc3Sdb-HQ9FTKB9jUCidi7fUboT2MfReOanzjA.jpg

holidays.jpg

Just came up on The Rest is Entertainment. The picture was a stock picture from 2012. The people in the article didn't exist, and it was basically written by AI with a real journalist's name attached. They're literally and knowingly publishing fake news on this topic now to draw clicks.



And story
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The Telegraph ffs. Never agreed with it politically, but it always had a high standard of journalism. That article is an abomination. Embarrassing cunts.
 
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