Venezuela economy

Malignant capitalism might not be such a utopian dream after all? Who'd have thought?
Capitalism, with all its flaws has provided more prosperity than any other system, socialism has never done that,
everywhere it's been instigated has resulted in economic collapse.
Unless you know of somewhere where it hasn't.
 
Capitalism, with all its flaws has provided more prosperity than any other system, socialism has never done that,
everywhere it's been instigated has resulted in economic collapse.
Unless you know of somewhere where it hasn't.
Could one look at an hypothesis that states that, eventually, capitalism comes to be seen as that which restricts
genuine prosperity so as to create an imbalance of prosperity that favours some over others. Socialism can be seen as an attempt to respond to this. How successful
it has been is debatable for sure. But isn't there a question as to whether socialism is the cause of any collapse or whether this is due to an imbalance of prosperity that is
built into the mechanisms of capitalism?
 
Could one look at an hypothesis that states that, eventually, capitalism comes to be seen as that which restricts
genuine prosperity so as to create an imbalance of prosperity that favours some over others. Socialism can be seen as an attempt to respond to this. How successful
it has been is debatable for sure. But isn't there a question as to whether socialism is the cause of any collapse or whether this is due to an imbalance of prosperity that is
built into the mechanisms of capitalism?
Well, as capitalism is the de facto system that the vast majority of countries adopt, and that socialism, which
has been tried by some with catastrophic results, I can't see how any argument for this political theory could succeed.
It is patently obvious that the collapses have been caused by adopting it, and the fact that nobody yet can point to
anywhere where it's succeeded reaffirms that.
 
capitalism comes to be seen as that which restricts
genuine prosperity so as to create an imbalance of prosperity that favours some over others. Socialism can be seen as an attempt to respond to this.
Ah, a smaller imbalance by reducing the mean. Great stuff.
 
Ah, a smaller imbalance by reducing the mean. Great stuff.
Think you have slightly misunderstood what was written? And a question - is it really worth having 'prosperity' if it creates
an unbalanced system? Wow, we have a great economy but the environment is fucked. Guess you are a Trump fan after all.
 
Could one look at an hypothesis that states that, eventually, capitalism comes to be seen as that which restricts genuine prosperity so as to create an imbalance of prosperity that favours some over others. Socialism can be seen as an attempt to respond to this. How successful it has been is debatable for sure. But isn't there a question as to whether socialism is the cause of any collapse or whether this is due to an imbalance of prosperity that is built into the mechanisms of capitalism?

Capitalism is the only system where one is treated as an equal with the opportunity and freedom to do whatever you feel. This isn't in terms of personal wealth but in terms of the potential and freedom to do it.

Socialism restricts potential by restricting what an individual can do because there is no such thing as the individual in socialism. There is also no such thing as freedom because socialism controls the ability to freely do what you want and make what you want for yourself.

In a capitalist system there are numerous, countless examples of people with nothing making their own way to create something. In socialism the only thing important is the contribution of everyone to one thing but if they don't contribute then the system falls down.

All previous states have got around the last part by enforcing socialism (via military means or worse) and not openly practicing it as say a democracy.

Socialism only actively equalizes society by making everyone as equally as poor as the lowest common denominator without any choice or say in the matter.
 
Capitalism is the only system where one is treated as an equal with the opportunity and freedom to do whatever you feel. This isn't in terms of personal wealth but in terms of the potential and freedom to do it.

Socialism restricts potential by restricting what an individual can do because there is no such thing as the individual in socialism. There is also no such thing as freedom because socialism controls the ability to freely do what you want and make what you want for yourself.

In a capitalist system there are numerous, countless examples of people with nothing making their own way to create something. In socialism the only thing important is the contribution of everyone to one thing but if they don't contribute then the system falls down.

All previous states have got around the last part by enforcing socialism (via military means or worse) and not openly practicing it as say a democracy.

Socialism only actively equalizes society by making everyone as equally as poor as the lowest common denominator without any choice or say in the matter.
Thanks for this - appreciated. What I am tending to look at is a way beyond the dogmas of both capitalism and socialism. For me, there is an argument to say that capitalism
is one form of the idea of 'the way of gaining the world but losing the soul.' This 'losing the soul' might be interpreted as an inability to know the 'spirit of a law' but instead left
with only an understanding of 'the letter of the law.' In short, one loses touch with a unifying essence, instead left with 'my dogmas better than your dogma'. Beyond that (and this might seem a strange example to use here but...) this loss of essence is like a lessening of the depth of intimacy that can be experienced - for example it will get it the way of opening to the divine aspect of women (beyond physical, emotional, mental). That which is 'of heaven' comes to shape this world in a way that is not possible within only the paradigms of capitalism and socialism. Anyhow, I appreciate that this kind of thing does not generally fit within bluemoon but such is life, lol - is another way of looking at/being with these things. And if the likes of war, poverty, pollution etc are symptoms of imbalance, I don't think it's a bad thing to question what might be at the root of this.
ps if the only way people have been educated about power is 'thinking from the head downwards' rather than a power that is based in 'feeling from the ground upwards' then, more than likely, anything above will, at best, come across as upside down.
 
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Listen, they didn't implement REAL Communism/socialism/Marxism. What they did instead could be better defined as socialism/Marxism/Communism - that's why it failed, everybody knows that if a real Marxist/Communist/socialist economy were to be tried then it would work. Those 300 other times just didn't do it properly.

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