Video reffing approved for France-Spain tomorrow

[Blue Hefner]

They aren't going to disappear though. Whatever technology is brought in.

Maybe not. But I do not accept they are part and parcel of the general excitement of sport, and football in particular

Liverpool at home, Chelsea and home and Spurs at home are all games we are likely to have won if the obvious decision was given. I think all supporters(apart from United and Liverpool) would welcome the move towards video technology as we all want the result to reflect the game, not be a random result

Also, the argument of 'how long does it take?', doesn't hold much water with me either. What is more important, the correct decision or the game being over quickly?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Also, the argument of 'how long does it take?', doesn't hold much water with me either. What is more important, the correct decision or the game being over quickly?

Speaking personally, I don't believe a futile pursuit of perfection in decision making should be allowed to turn football into a stop/start sport like gridiron.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Maybe not. But I do not accept they are part and parcel of the general excitement of sport, and football in particular

Liverpool at home, Chelsea and home and Spurs at home are all games we are likely to have won if the obvious decision was given. I think all supporters(apart from United and Liverpool) would welcome the move towards video technology as we all want the result to reflect the game, not be a random result

Also, the argument of 'how long does it take?', doesn't hold much water with me either. What is more important, the correct decision or the game being over quickly?

And I believe that waiting 30 seconds or so for a decision will add to the drama of a game

 

[Lancet Fluke]

One area of technology that I believe must be within current technological capabilities that, like goal line technology, shouldn't interrupt the flow of a game, is offsides. It cannot be beyond the wit of man to devise a system where every player and the ball are chipped to determine whether a particular player was in an offside position when the ball was played forward, following which the lino can interpret accordingly. I would have thought that was fairly straightforward.

I've thought this for years, the technology must be there but let's be honest they can't even get the time keeping for a match sorted so that you have the same amount of actual play in matches which could be sorted with some **** pressing stop and go on a stop watch when the ball is not in play so the chances of them bothering to come up with a system where the ball and players are all chipped to get offsides correct must be at least fifty years away.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Speaking personally, I don't believe a futile pursuit of perfection in decision making should be allowed to turn football into a stop/start sport like gridiron.

I don't think that is what hey are trying to do - I think they are trying to improve the game by making it fairer and when the technology is there it is silly not to use it. As mentioned before, both decisions took the same amount of time put together than it took a sub to walk off in the Monaco game. The game is pretty stop/start anyway when subs, goal kicks, arguing with the refs, injuries are taken into account. I can certainly live with a couple of extra minutes to get the decision correct. A couple of minutes that would probably be used to argue with the referee anyway

 

[Ballet On Ice]

I was originally a bit sceptical about this but after seeing it in action last night I’m a convert.

Worked superbly and quickly with the right decisions being made, there will still be grey areas in football when pens etc are a bit 50.50 but so what if the clear decisions are given correctly we can still argue the 50.50s. in the pub later

One thing last night that I noticed was that once the decision had been checked and corrected the ref wasn’t surrounded by the other team thinking they had been robbed, and were trying to bully him into giving it to them. If that stops certain teams hounding the refs then that’s also a big plus

 

[SWP's back]

They aren't going to disappear though. Whatever technology is brought in.

So unless there is a 100% reduction then nothing should be done to reduce incorrect decisions where possible?

That's a rather strange premise.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

I don't think that is what hey are trying to do - I think they are trying to improve the game by making it fairer and when the technology is there it is silly not to use it. As mentioned before, both decisions took the same amount of time put together than it took a sub to walk off in the Monaco game. The game is pretty stop/start anyway when subs, goal kicks, arguing with the refs, injuries are taken into account. I can certainly live with a couple of extra minutes to get the decision correct. A couple of minutes that would probably be used to argue with the referee anyway

Not to derail the thread, but this has got to be addressed to, especially when the manager makes sure the player to be subbed is on the furthest corner of the pitch when running the clock down at end of a game. Any fit player should be able to walk off a pitch in 60secs and those unable stretchered off. A limit of one minute should be given to get a player off and a new one on, otherwise the substitution should be cancelled and he should stay on until the next break in play

 

[SWP's back]

Speaking personally, I don't believe a futile pursuit of perfection in decision making should be allowed to turn football into a stop/start sport like gridiron.

You'd be better placed to comment had you watched the game yesterday.

Two correct calls. 50 seconds combined. Totally changes the game from 1-1 to the correct score 2-0.

And your sentence is bunkum. It's like saying "We will never stop all fatalities on the road so there's no point having speed limits or seat belts."

 

[pee dubya]

I was originally a bit sceptical about this but after seeing it in action last night I’m a convert.

Worked superbly and quickly with the right decisions being made, there will still be grey areas in football when pens etc are a bit 50.50 but so what if the clear decisions are given correctly we can still argue the 50.50s. in the pub later

One thing last night that I noticed was that once the decision had been checked and corrected the ref wasn’t surrounded by the other team thinking they had been robbed, and were trying to bully him into giving it to them. If that stops certain teams hounding the refs then that’s also a big plus

Be interesting to see what kind of guidelines are decided on for the video reffing. This trial apparently worked well although there will be more difficult to call decisions. In rugby and cricket i believe if there's any doubt they tend to stick with the original decision. Another way could do it would be to give the benefit of any doubt to the attacking team.

Also over time i suspect refereeing will change, for example the linesman won't be flagging for anything marginal, referee's might shy away from making big calls etc. How long do you continue playing before checking a decision? If a player is offside, not flagged but wins a corner rather than scoring a goal, is that reviewed?

I think FIFA are going to have to make some quite strict guidelines about how video technology is going to be used, otherwise it could become a bit of a mess.

Also, are the crowd in the stadium going to get to see the replays? If not, do they get an explanation of why a goal is disallowed? Will the TV audience get to hear the communication between ref and video assistant?