Video refs

Feed the Elk said:
Why not just have video refs watching the game in the background and when they see a significant incorrect decision then they buzz the ref to let him know to stop the game and pull it back to where the incident occurred? Even give them a mic to let them know what they'd missed.

I disagree with one challenge per game, especially with the number of errors that take place these days in each game
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Absolutely spot on - there are so many in every game that one would be totally insufficient.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Don't be stupid. If video refs are introduced, that's one more way that the FA, UEFA and FIFA can't help their favourite teams.
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Absolutely spot on 100%. Hell, we might even get a fair crack of the whip and that's something that the FA and commercial pressures simply won't allow to happen.
 
The sooner it comes in, the better. I suspect we'd benefit from it more than most.
 
Personally not in favour of it.

The stated advantage is that you get the right calls made. But, in fact, it falls on even that hurdle. To avoid terminally disrupting the flow of the game would have to curtail its use (e.g. 3 calls like in other sports, only penalty box incidents, etc). Once you make that concession it's stated purpose is knackered.

Plus, you just get further subjectivity by introducing a 4th official review - it just becomes their flawed and subjective view of an incident.
 
Why not just get the goal line assistants in to Premier League like it is in World Cups? Most of the major contentious decisions are in the box. Premier League can afford it and then we'll see more big decisions made correctly
 
video replays for penalty decisions has got to come in, that was a disgraceful decision last night. the game is now to quick for referees, i can't think of no good reason not to introduce it. more often than not the ball goes dead, so a minute with a video ref is no big deal. somewhere along the lines of "is there any reason not to award a penalty" along the lines of a rugby ref
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
Plus, you just get further subjectivity by introducing a 4th official review - it just becomes their flawed and subjective view of an incident.
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This would be my main concern with it (i.e. that it ends up not solving much at all). The laws of the game are so vague that most incidents can be argued either way. We see this every week with players, managers, pundits, fans and even qualified referees all disagreeing with each other over the same incident.

The clearcut, 100% certain fouls are relatively few and far between, and while I agree it's imperative that something is done to make sure those decisions are right, the majority of the time we'd just be introducing yet another layer of subjectivity that's open to abuse.

The problem lies in the laws of the game, something that isn't such an issue in the likes of tennis, cricket and rugby.
 
Terrible idea, nearly every decision would be opinion based, Sane handball, Sterling first penalty shout, 2 people watching the same clip would come to different conclusions, it works in other sports as it deals in facts and even then some decisions take several minutes to make
 
Dubai Blue said:
This would be my main concern with it (i.e. that it ends up not solving much at all). The laws of the game are so vague that most incidents can be argued either way. We see this every week with players, managers, pundits, fans and even qualified referees all disagreeing with each other over the same incident.

The clearcut, 100% certain fouls are relatively few and far between, and while I agree it's imperative that something is done to make sure those decisions are right, the majority of the time we'd just be introducing yet another layer of subjectivity that's open to abuse.

The problem lies in the laws of the game, something that isn't such an issue in the likes of tennis, cricket and rugby.
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just like rugby if there's doubt you don't give it, but go through the process, to not do it is negligent in my eyes, there is so much at stake at the top level of football, yesterdays was so blatant and obvious it was ridiculous
 
Monkfish said:
Terrible idea, nearly every decision would be opinion based, Sane handball, Sterling first penalty shout, 2 people watching the same clip would come to different conclusions, it works in other sports as it deals in facts and even then some decisions take several minutes to make
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mate it would take seconds to know yes it hit his hand but no intent apart from spurs fans
 
Monkfish said:
Terrible idea, nearly every decision would be opinion based, Sane handball, Sterling first penalty shout, 2 people watching the same clip would come to different conclusions, it works in other sports as it deals in facts and even then some decisions take several minutes to make
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This has to be the most ridiculous comment of 2017!

"Nearly every decision would be opinion based"
 
Hard to imagine them taking away one of their last remaining methods of exercising their corruption and bias to influence the outcome of a game - i.e. the officials.

Unless the video review panel appointments are personally vetted by David Gill, in which case it might happen.
 
Colin Bells Boots said:

Absolutely spot on - there are so many in every game that one would be totally insufficient.
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Isn't it normally the done thing that you have your challenge remaining in tact if you're correct in asking for it? So long as you saved it for something you were fairly certain on, e.g. the penalty claim yesterday, then you'd still have your challenge to use again later if needed.

Another plus for me would be that it might make the referee's job slightly easier as players would dive less. There'd be no point if they knew it was going to be watched back and result in a yellow card.
 
Machiavelli said:
Spot on. The off field officials could be selected to continue their shenanigans but then there would be no room to question things once the 'video' is reviewed and a decision is made 'based on the evidence'.
It will be great IF the panel is totally neutral.
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Any video review, exactly what the umpteenth official is watching, should be shown simulataneously on the big screen. Fuck this crap about not showing the balls of a job that refs are making. The hard-earned money City fans paid yesterday to get a referee who just wasn't interested in awarding a stonewall pen, three times. Blind Andre probably decided about a 'no pen game' last Tuesday!
 
Machiavelli said:
What the fuck does all that mean?
Let me make it clearer - if there is bias applied to certain teams via the on field officials, what's to say the same bias won't be applied by the off field officials who review the video during the games?
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While it is theoretically possible that the video refs could be bent, it would be so blindingly obvious that the bentness would be untenable.
At least now, the officials can claim a one-shot at the decisions.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
On a serious note, I don't see why the Premier League has exclusively English referees. We've long since established that it's mainly foreigners who are at the top of the playing and managerial professions. Why do they think that referees would be any different? They should be hiring the best referees from around the world with the added bonus of not risking appointing referees to their favourite club (even though they all claim to support some obscure non-league side).
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I've been saying this for years, foreign referees are less likely to be biased than English ones in a game involving English teams.
 
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