JoeMercer'sWay said:SWP's back said:Fuck off affective! If refs hadn't been gifting them points this season then their effective play would see them in 2nd and if refs hadn't been fucking us over, our less effective play would see us well clear.JoeMercer'sWay said:United don't have to be all that, they just need to do what they do which is play it out wide to quick wingers, put in decent crosses and stab them home, it's called being effective.
Gary Neville and plenty of Blues have summed it up perfectly in recent months.
City fans passing the buck onto referees, well it just sums up modern society where people want to pass their responsibility onto somebody else, name me a game we dropped points in that we wouldn't have won if we played properly, the answer is you can't.
Anyway, you're moving off topic, Paddy diasagrees with you and thinks you a boring sod.
Only you and a rag don't like the comments. I like those numbers. Good work PV.
Edit: Modern society? Do fuck off mate. I'm hardly one looking for handouts and watching big fucking brother. Don't insult me with that shite. We know each other better than that.
it wasn't aimed at you, it's what it reminds me of from seeing stuff in day to day life.
The Rags have had plenty of favourable decisions, I won't argue against that, nor the underlying merit of what Vieira said.
I just don't feel it's right to start engaging with the rags in silly mind games when all we should be doing is focusing on trying to win every game till the end of the season.
If we'd been effective and put away our chances and had a plan B we'd be comfortably clear in the league and I can't see how anyone can argue otherwise, we've lost ourselves plenty of points this season shooting ourselves in the foot.
I'm not going to blame the refs, I'm going to blame Mancini and the squad for not delivering if we don't win the league, it's their responsibility to deliver and they've had ample opportunity to.
We don't have to agree, but my opinion isn't shite just because you don't agree with it.
SWP's back said:JMW - no team wins all their fucking games. 71 shots? So fuck what. Utd have played shite also in many fucking games btu have ended up taking points away due to referreeing errors.
We haven't had the same rub. Why can't you get your head around that.
Ofcourse we dropped points. So have every title winning team in history. All we want is a level playing field. Viera agrees. You don't, we get it. You want us to win every game, be whiter than white, bend over and let the rags get all the decisions. You live in a dream world. In the real one, it's not so rosy.
Mancio said:JoeMercer'sWay said:SWP's back said:Fuck off affective! If refs hadn't been gifting them points this season then their effective play would see them in 2nd and if refs hadn't been fucking us over, our less effective play would see us well clear.
Anyway, you're moving off topic, Paddy diasagrees with you and thinks you a boring sod.
Only you and a rag don't like the comments. I like those numbers. Good work PV.
Edit: Modern society? Do fuck off mate. I'm hardly one looking for handouts and watching big fucking brother. Don't insult me with that shite. We know each other better than that.
it wasn't aimed at you, it's what it reminds me of from seeing stuff in day to day life.
The Rags have had plenty of favourable decisions, I won't argue against that, nor the underlying merit of what Vieira said.
I just don't feel it's right to start engaging with the rags in silly mind games when all we should be doing is focusing on trying to win every game till the end of the season.
If we'd been effective and put away our chances and had a plan B we'd be comfortably clear in the league and I can't see how anyone can argue otherwise, we've lost ourselves plenty of points this season shooting ourselves in the foot.
I'm not going to blame the refs, I'm going to blame Mancini and the squad for not delivering if we don't win the league, it's their responsibility to deliver and they've had ample opportunity to.
We don't have to agree, but my opinion isn't shite just because you don't agree with it.
you come out as a good guy mate , but , believe me , you are too naive saying the least.
YOU CAN'T WIN AGAINST THE REFEREES !! NOT EVEN IF YOU ARE FUCKYING BARCELONA !!
real madrid 10 penalties for and 0 penalties against
barcelona 4 penalties for and 2 penalties against
= real fuckying madrid win the liga !!
JoeMercer'sWay said:SWP's back said:JMW - no team wins all their fucking games. 71 shots? So fuck what. Utd have played shite also in many fucking games btu have ended up taking points away due to referreeing errors.
We haven't had the same rub. Why can't you get your head around that.
Ofcourse we dropped points. So have every title winning team in history. All we want is a level playing field. Viera agrees. You don't, we get it. You want us to win every game, be whiter than white, bend over and let the rags get all the decisions. You live in a dream world. In the real one, it's not so rosy.
No, I just think that there comes a point when after dropping points in the same manner in the same types of games for 3 months that it's an issue with the management and the squad, and a fundamental one at that.
We don't need to win every game, we only needed to win 2 that we lost to be top of the league, and with our resources, and the ample time inc. a January window to realise we were becoming unstuck away from home, I don't think it's too much to have asked for it to have been sorted and for us to have started winning away from home, why it's taken till nearly April for it to become generally accepted god only knows.
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Mancio said:JoeMercer'sWay said:it wasn't aimed at you, it's what it reminds me of from seeing stuff in day to day life.
The Rags have had plenty of favourable decisions, I won't argue against that, nor the underlying merit of what Vieira said.
I just don't feel it's right to start engaging with the rags in silly mind games when all we should be doing is focusing on trying to win every game till the end of the season.
If we'd been effective and put away our chances and had a plan B we'd be comfortably clear in the league and I can't see how anyone can argue otherwise, we've lost ourselves plenty of points this season shooting ourselves in the foot.
I'm not going to blame the refs, I'm going to blame Mancini and the squad for not delivering if we don't win the league, it's their responsibility to deliver and they've had ample opportunity to.
We don't have to agree, but my opinion isn't shite just because you don't agree with it.
you come out as a good guy mate , but , believe me , you are too naive saying the least.
YOU CAN'T WIN AGAINST THE REFEREES !! NOT EVEN IF YOU ARE FUCKYING BARCELONA !!
real madrid 10 penalties for and 0 penalties against
barcelona 4 penalties for and 2 penalties against
= real fuckying madrid win the liga !!
I think there's a lot more to Real being top and Barca being 2nd than Real having been given 6 more penalties.
Have you seen El Classico's in the past few years? not one goes by without at least one Real Madrid player being sent off.
Blue Mooner said:Some people totally miss the point. Not one team in history has won every game.
These supposed occasions when we have lost points due to our deficiencies would not have been lost points had referees done their jobs, so to blame the manager and squad is crass in the extreme. Conversely had refs been treating the rags in the same way then they would have lost points where they have won them. The delta in points would have meant we would be well clear by now.
This has nothing to do with managerial tactics or team performances just blatant bias. Unfortunately that is what we are up against.
Would be funSoulboy said:I must admit that Vieira's latest stuff in the media is like manna from heaven for me.
I'm just about old enough to remember Big Mal taking it to the rags. He threatened them that we were going to take their crown. He made City fans believe in themselves, to never let a rag look down on us.
The rags hated him. The City fans loved him. I'm not for managerial shrinking violets. We have been in the shadows for far too long now.
I do genuinely believe that Vieira might also have an ulterior motive with all this stuff... ;-)