cleavers
Moderator
Villainpeace, a couple of points back at you.
1. I haven't once said anything against YOU personally, my comments were against a lot of your supporters, based on my visit to VP this season, and your visit to us yesterday. I sit quite close to the away fans, and quite a majority of them yesterday were acting like cocks, that's what I saw and heard. The Barry is Judas banner was a small part.
2. At no point have I called your club "shit".
3. I have read your posts, and none of what I posted was directed at YOU, just the majority of what I've seen this season, like a number of other clubs, your fans seem to object to us having money, as I pointed out though, when your club got yours, I didn't see many Villa fans objecting. Fact is we have both been given a boost by big takeovers, and have spent big money to better ourselves, its not our fault that we did better than you out of it financially, that's just life.
4. Regards Barry, who apart from his first 10 games here I haven't been particularly impressed with anyway, and who we certainly didn't miss yesterday, your fans were waving fake notes at him at VP, so don't try and say that the anger with him is actually about a rant at O'Neil. He stuck with you when he could have gone to the scousers and was one of your best players that season, then he took a chance on us, and its this that caused most annoyance to your fans, how dare he go to little city. Its a gamble that may not come off for him now either, because its quite likely if we get 4th, he'll be displaced, as we can do better. Either way he will have to up his game quite a bit for me.
All I have said is that this season, I've lost a huge amount of respect for Villa fans in general, I've explained why, and I know I'm not alone. The "where were you when you were shit" yesterday was sung by the vast majority, probably the loudest song you sang in fact, and yes it is banter and all that, but its out of order, simply because your fans should remember what its like to be there when you were shit, its not that long ago you did pretty much what we did. If you thought it was wrong then fair enough, but the vast majority didn't.
Maybe you should also read what I wrote more carefully too.
1. I haven't once said anything against YOU personally, my comments were against a lot of your supporters, based on my visit to VP this season, and your visit to us yesterday. I sit quite close to the away fans, and quite a majority of them yesterday were acting like cocks, that's what I saw and heard. The Barry is Judas banner was a small part.
2. At no point have I called your club "shit".
3. I have read your posts, and none of what I posted was directed at YOU, just the majority of what I've seen this season, like a number of other clubs, your fans seem to object to us having money, as I pointed out though, when your club got yours, I didn't see many Villa fans objecting. Fact is we have both been given a boost by big takeovers, and have spent big money to better ourselves, its not our fault that we did better than you out of it financially, that's just life.
4. Regards Barry, who apart from his first 10 games here I haven't been particularly impressed with anyway, and who we certainly didn't miss yesterday, your fans were waving fake notes at him at VP, so don't try and say that the anger with him is actually about a rant at O'Neil. He stuck with you when he could have gone to the scousers and was one of your best players that season, then he took a chance on us, and its this that caused most annoyance to your fans, how dare he go to little city. Its a gamble that may not come off for him now either, because its quite likely if we get 4th, he'll be displaced, as we can do better. Either way he will have to up his game quite a bit for me.
All I have said is that this season, I've lost a huge amount of respect for Villa fans in general, I've explained why, and I know I'm not alone. The "where were you when you were shit" yesterday was sung by the vast majority, probably the loudest song you sang in fact, and yes it is banter and all that, but its out of order, simply because your fans should remember what its like to be there when you were shit, its not that long ago you did pretty much what we did. If you thought it was wrong then fair enough, but the vast majority didn't.
Maybe you should also read what I wrote more carefully too.