Villa return some of their 1700 allocation - on OS now

Skashion said:
fathellensbellend said:
short memories taking the piss out of villa's support, how many of you were amongst the 900 odd city fans that went to villa on a midweek night when we were shit under pearce.

instead of mocking villa's support we should be looking at the real reason they are bringing so few, COST.
Has the Villa game been moved to midweek?

surely you know, you know everything else.
 
Not sure city capping their prices would force others to do the same. We will just get the usual, what do you expect the owners are loaded nonsense.

I predict our prices will increase by a minimum of 5% next season for us home fans.

Clubs will get what they can while they can.
 
fathellensbellend said:
short memories taking the piss out of villa's support, how many of you were amongst the 900 odd city fans that went to villa on a midweek night when we were shit under pearce.

instead of mocking villa's support we should be looking at the real reason they are bringing so few, COST.

I wasn't there but I've been to plenty of games at VP before and since and regardless of how well or how badly we've been doing, we've always taken good numbers there for as long as I can remember. Our following that night was indeed poor but where Villa away is concerned it really was an exception to the rule. Our form was piss poor the following season when we also played them there in midweek but we took thousands and we were rewarded with a pleasantly surprising 3-1 win. Put it this way, I can think of more occasions when they've had a mediocre following at ours than we have at theirs over the past 20-odd years, notably the 1000 or so fans they brought to ours on Easter Saturday 1994, despite them being on a high after beating United in the League Cup Final the week before.

I'm not knocking Villa's support in general - their fans have endured a tough time of late and the £40 ticket price is high but let's remember that it isn't as high as what we get charged at their gaff these days plus it's a 3PM kick-off on a Saturday in a city that is relatively easy for them to get to.
 
mayo31 said:
Not sure city capping their prices would force others to do the same. We will just get the usual, what do you expect the owners are loaded nonsense.

I predict our prices will increase by a minimum of 5% next season for us home fans.

Clubs will get what they can while they can.

why would they increase 5%, the next tv deal is going to net all clubs an addition 20 million or so.
 
nw42 said:
the old abbey said:
Says it all about villa.big club my arse.


What would you say about ourselves in terms of 'bigness' when compared with Villa? Not a dig, just wondering how you see it.

Always thought of Villa as one of the so called 2nd tier of big clubs, along with Spurs, Everton and ourselves.

All about perspective I suppose but we are no bigger than Villa in my eyes, memories of midweek away matches there in the 70's are among my most often recalled, that Holte End was immense and took your breathe away when you first stepped onto the Witton Terrace, the ground crackled with atmosphere, big club atmosphere, just like Goodison, WHL & Maine Rd et al Getting goosebumps writing this and remembering the Middlesborough semi final in 76. Night games in the 70's were the best of times.

Anyway, sorry for the ramble, it's a shame villa can't sell a full allocation, there but for the grace of God/Allah go us.
Wasn't long ago (well actually it was, but it doesn't feel very long) that Villa won the European Cup and were Champions with players like Tony Morley, Gordon Cowans and Peter Withe. They've never been an Arsenal, Liverpool or Utd but they were an Everton and a leeds. Of course times change. Chelsea used to be nothing, and now I hear that their shirts are the 4th best sellers in the World.

I'd like to think that in my time City were always just that little bit bigger than Villa, but in reality we were probably just a club with a lot of potential yo-yoing for much of the time between divisions

if it wasn't for little Dicky and a host of other bits of luck along the way where would we be. But I wouldn't swop our trip for the world. Send shivers down my spine just thinking about what's happened over the last 15 years at City. All that frustration protesting outside the Main Stand at Maine Rd it really did turn out to be worth it
 
fathellensbellend said:
short memories taking the piss out of villa's support, how many of you were amongst the 900 odd city fans that went to villa on a midweek night when we were shit under pearce.

instead of mocking villa's support we should be looking at the real reason they are bringing so few, COST.
Vassell 1-0? That one? I was there.
Mind you, I was working only 40 minutes away
 
fathellensbellend said:
short memories taking the piss out of villa's support, how many of you were amongst the 900 odd city fans that went to villa on a midweek night when we were shit under pearce.

instead of mocking villa's support we should be looking at the real reason they are bringing so few, COST.

I find it embarrasing the abuse some of our lot hand out at other clubs not sellling out away matches. Only because we are being blessed with some success do we command the following we currently have. I remember the 900 @ Villa very well. Embarrasing.

As another poster says the arrogance of some of our support is Rag esc.

In reality 1,200/1,500 @ £40 a ticket is still a decent showing.
 
M18CTID said:
fathellensbellend said:
short memories taking the piss out of villa's support, how many of you were amongst the 900 odd city fans that went to villa on a midweek night when we were shit under pearce.

instead of mocking villa's support we should be looking at the real reason they are bringing so few, COST.

I wasn't there but I've been to plenty of games at VP before and since and regardless of how well or how badly we've been doing, we've always taken good numbers there for as long as I can remember. Our following that night was indeed poor but where Villa away is concerned it really was an exception to the rule. Our form was piss poor the following season when we also played them there in midweek but we took thousands and we were rewarded with a pleasantly surprising 3-1 win. Put it this way, I can think of more occasions when they've had a mediocre following at ours than we have at theirs over the past 20-odd years, notably the 1000 or so fans they brought to ours on Easter Saturday 1994, despite them being on a high after beating United in the League Cup Final the week before.

I'm not knocking Villa's support in general - their fans have endured a tough time of late and the £40 ticket price is high but let's remember that it isn't as high as what we get charged at their gaff these days plus it's a 3PM kick-off on a Saturday in a city that is relatively easy for them to get to.

i would agree with all that, factually correct mate, i remember the game after their league cup final, a couple of upper tier blocks in the north stand.

i just think it is sad that a club like villa cannot sell a modest 2800 tickets.

i guess we are heading to no away fans hardly except for the clubs with wealthy fans, or those who think they can win.
 
cheddar404 said:
nw42 said:
the old abbey said:
Says it all about villa.big club my arse.


What would you say about ourselves in terms of 'bigness' when compared with Villa? Not a dig, just wondering how you see it.

Always thought of Villa as one of the so called 2nd tier of big clubs, along with Spurs, Everton and ourselves.

All about perspective I suppose but we are no bigger than Villa in my eyes, memories of midweek away matches there in the 70's are among my most often recalled, that Holte End was immense and took your breathe away when you first stepped onto the Witton Terrace, the ground crackled with atmosphere, big club atmosphere, just like Goodison, WHL & Maine Rd et al Getting goosebumps writing this and remembering the Middlesborough semi final in 76. Night games in the 70's were the best of times.

Anyway, sorry for the ramble, it's a shame villa can't sell a full allocation, there but for the grace of God/Allah go us.

It's all very raggish this calling Villa a small club.

No-one has called them a small club - that would be an incredibly deluded comment to make. One poster has stated "big club, my arse" and that was it. And let's be fair, they're not really a big club as things stand in English football but they're one of those sleeping giants with huge potential.
 
fathellensbellend said:
mayo31 said:
Not sure city capping their prices would force others to do the same. We will just get the usual, what do you expect the owners are loaded nonsense.

I predict our prices will increase by a minimum of 5% next season for us home fans.

Clubs will get what they can while they can.

why would they increase 5%, the next tv deal is going to net all clubs an addition 20 million or so.


In the last two seasons my ticket has gone up from £420 to £460 just on the gold scheme. That is £ 20 a year which is close to 5%. If you add the £50 platinum fee the price would be up by over 15%.

The same will happen next season no matter what tv deal we have.
 

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