Villa return some of their 1700 allocation - on OS now

texas pete said:
fathellensbellend said:
short memories taking the piss out of villa's support, how many of you were amongst the 900 odd city fans that went to villa on a midweek night when we were shit under pearce.

instead of mocking villa's support we should be looking at the real reason they are bringing so few, COST.

I find it embarrasing the abuse some of our lot hand out at other clubs not sellling out away matches. Only because we are being blessed with some success do we command the following we currently have. I remember the 900 @ Villa very well. Embarrasing.

As another poster says the arrogance of some of our support is Rag esc.

In reality 1,200/1,500 @ £40 a ticket is still a decent showing.

if fans in this country showed some unity, these prices wouldnt exist ie germany, sadly small minded plums would sooner take the piss, when in reallity their taking the piss out of themselves.

62 quid for arsenal for us, no doubt some balloon will say it's the price of success.
 
texas pete said:
fathellensbellend said:
short memories taking the piss out of villa's support, how many of you were amongst the 900 odd city fans that went to villa on a midweek night when we were shit under pearce.

instead of mocking villa's support we should be looking at the real reason they are bringing so few, COST.

I find it embarrasing the abuse some of our lot hand out at other clubs not sellling out away matches. Only because we are being blessed with some success do we command the following we currently have. I remember the 900 @ Villa very well. Embarrasing.

As another poster says the arrogance of some of our support is Rag esc.

In reality 1,200/1,500 @ £40 a ticket is still a decent showing.
It's not 1,200 it'll be less than that. There are 3 blocks in the away lower tier 113, 114 and 115. We have 113 now so they have about 1,100 max.

But still a signal for clubs to be proactive and do something about it. Eventually it will impact on their bottom line. Declining away crowds are because fans are hurting in the pocket, that means the next thing to go is Cup games, and finally the season ticket
 
mayo31 said:
fathellensbellend said:
mayo31 said:
Not sure city capping their prices would force others to do the same. We will just get the usual, what do you expect the owners are loaded nonsense.

I predict our prices will increase by a minimum of 5% next season for us home fans.

Clubs will get what they can while they can.

why would they increase 5%, the next tv deal is going to net all clubs an addition 20 million or so.


In the last two seasons my ticket has gone up from £420 to £460 just on the gold scheme. That is £ 20 a year which is close to 5%. If you add the £50 platinum fee the price would be up by over 15%.

The same will happen next season no matter what tv deal we have.

on that basis, i cannot argue, hope you are wrong.
 
There are some numpties here who don't seem to realise that it is Villa that have this ultra-high opinion of themselves. It's their arrogance towards which we are directing our disdain. That's anti-arrogance, not arrogance.
 
mayo31 said:
fathellensbellend said:
mayo31 said:
Not sure city capping their prices would force others to do the same. We will just get the usual, what do you expect the owners are loaded nonsense.

I predict our prices will increase by a minimum of 5% next season for us home fans.

Clubs will get what they can while they can.

why would they increase 5%, the next tv deal is going to net all clubs an addition 20 million or so.


In the last two seasons my ticket has gone up from £420 to £460 just on the gold scheme. That is £ 20 a year which is close to 5%. If you add the £50 platinum fee the price would be up by over 15%.

The same will happen next season no matter what tv deal we have.
Season ticket prices are still cheap in my opinion. It's the match day prices that are ridiculous and that hits the away fans and the Cup crowds. I'm expecting season ticket prices to go up again next season and I don't really mind too much as long as it's not ridiculous.
 
A person can only look after themselves and get to a game.

Never been one to argue over attendances because as I say you are only one. Get in yourself and the rest is what it

Saying that I banded 51 of us to go to Wigan. Mithered the fuck out of some.
 
M18CTID said:
cheddar404 said:
nw42 said:
What would you say about ourselves in terms of 'bigness' when compared with Villa? Not a dig, just wondering how you see it.

Always thought of Villa as one of the so called 2nd tier of big clubs, along with Spurs, Everton and ourselves.

All about perspective I suppose but we are no bigger than Villa in my eyes, memories of midweek away matches there in the 70's are among my most often recalled, that Holte End was immense and took your breathe away when you first stepped onto the Witton Terrace, the ground crackled with atmosphere, big club atmosphere, just like Goodison, WHL & Maine Rd et al Getting goosebumps writing this and remembering the Middlesborough semi final in 76. Night games in the 70's were the best of times.

Anyway, sorry for the ramble, it's a shame villa can't sell a full allocation, there but for the grace of God/Allah go us.

It's all very raggish this calling Villa a small club.

No-one has called them a small club - that would be an incredibly deluded comment to make. One poster has stated "big club, my arse" and that was it. And let's be fair, they're not really a big club as things stand in English football but they're one of those sleeping giants with huge potential.

Not really the point though is it? Putting it in those terms is not really making a well rounded point; it's taking the piss. The reality is that without our recent success, our support would be similar to Villa's. There would be good days and bad days in terms of numbers away from home, and at home to be fair. It's basically a very arrogant attitude for which we criticise other clubs like United.
We were very similar to Villa before our lottery win and now some of us seem to think we're superior.
 
fathellensbellend said:
short memories taking the piss out of villa's support, how many of you were amongst the 900 odd city fans that went to villa on a midweek night when we were shit under pearce.

instead of mocking villa's support we should be looking at the real reason they are bringing so few, COST.

M6 was a joke, all the coaches nearly late. Sparse crowd all over the ground but we won 1-0 and they got a goal disallowed late on that was about 6 yards onside
 
Skashion said:
There are some numpties here who don't seem to realise that it is Villa that have this ultra-high opinion of themselves. It's their arrogance towards which we are directing our disdain. That's anti-arrogance, not arrogance.
It is a rubbish turnout no disguising that

But behind there's a trend

And deep down we know where we were going under Pearce. Imagine there'd been no takeover and we had somehow survived in the Premiership, I don't think we'd be taking many more than a 1,000 away now. We have hope now. We have great players to watch. The reality is that we are the haves, and the Villas are the have nots. Football is very much divided now. And FFP is going to rubber stamp that divide forever. Clubs like Villa are going to shrivel. Sure some will prosper under good management like Moyes, but it will gradually dawn on a lot of fans that they will never ever win anything.

It's ticket prices, and it's an awful lot more. The extreme difficulty for even big City clubs like Villa to compete. Had we not got Financial Fair Play coming in, then owners like Lerner might consider investing in their club. Now it's pointless. The sad thing is this has not really dawned on fans at the other clubs what the impact of FFP will be. They think it will help them. it wont. It will mean Utd, City, Chelsea etc will dominate, whilst their clubs will have to operate on a much smaller budget. And are they going to keep putting their hands in their pocket when they realise it's all stacked up against their club?

Maybe some clubs are happy just to be in the Premiership. The promoted clubs like WBA for 5 years or so. But then expectations change and you want more, but realise you have no chance

Lets just hope we never go down that road. The likelihood is that we may if we don't get this stadium built while we're at the top. it only takes 1 season where we cock it up, finish outside the top 4 and we may never get back in again with FFP.
 

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