Villa Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread

[paphos-mcfc]

We could only be blamed for their last goal, Kompany and Nasty got caught out. We need to start picking up points away from home.

 

[Theengelbert]

The ups and downs of City fans - from ecstasy to gloom.

Villa's tactics totally outsmarted us - they lulled us into a sense of complacency with the ineptitude and our defence just switched off as they had so little to do. But the dumb bugger with the red and yellow flag was hopeless making many wrong calls which seemed to favour the home team - their first goal.

But our defending was shocking. Needless foul in a very dangerous position (result second goal). Centre backs asleep when their goalie actually managed to kick the ball down the middle of the pitch instead of his usual touch finding punts - third goal.

Villa players and fans will wake up shortly and realise they didn't dream the result - it actually happened. Play crap and still get the points - only City can be so benevolent.

But what really annoys me is that we could have put an even bigger gap between us and the rags.

Oh well, that's life for a City fan.

I personally didn't think the pairing of Dzeko and Negredo didn't work very well. Thoughts??

Its heart breaking to lose in such fashion. Abysmal change of tactics and immature needless fouling by Nast.
Dzeko Negredo up front don' t work. Both aren't creative and dont link well with midfield, unlike Aguero and Tevez. We have a problem, we've not replaced Tevez and Ballo (never mind his antics). Jovetic isn't quality and Negredo isn't world class.

How can you say dzeko and negredo don't work we scored 2 and lots of chances. If we do that every week we'll win the league. Defensive errors and a dodgy ref decision was why we lost

 

[Brendan110_0]

Paid the price by taking Nasri off, he was having a great game, Villa couldn't get into our half until he went off. Took one of his eye's off the ball thinking of Wednesday methinks.

 

[Anonymous]

We could only be blamed for their last goal, Kompany and Nasty got caught out. We need to start picking up points away from home.

It happens. I've slept on it and don't feel half as bad as I did yesterday. We definitely need to start getting results to go with performances away from home ... but I don't see the problem as being terminal because yesterday wasn't a typical away performance. We didn't struggle to create, we weren't limp and slow passing the ball around in front of the opposition. We played with purpose, created chances, scored two, etc. It's hard to even fault Vinny/Nasty. Just how good were they against the rags ? I think it's super harsh when normally very reliable players have a bad day at the office, to start castigating them for it.

Even the substitution which in the heat of the post match fury I felt Pellegrini had gotten wrong, was in fact spot on. We were winning and creating more than Villa ... bringing Nasri off was the sensible thing to do with Bayern in mid week.

On the tactical discussion from last night ... about switching to 451 when we took the lead ... no thanks. I don't ever want City to be a play the percentages pragmatic team like that. It's fucking boring and if it means we win a few trophies less because we don't shut up shop every time we take the lead ... well I'm really not bothered.

Anyway .... Forza Pellegrini. Deserves far more respect than he's afforded by the obsessed with Mancini few.

 

[OB1]

We could only be blamed for their last goal, Kompany and Nasty got caught out. We need to start picking up points away from home.

It happens. I've slept on it and don't feel half as bad as I did yesterday. We definitely need to start getting results to go with performances away from home ... but I don't see the problem as being terminal because yesterday wasn't a typical away performance. We didn't struggle to create, we weren't limp and slow passing the ball around in front of the opposition. We played with purpose, created chances, scored two, etc. It's hard to even fault Vinny/Nasty. Just how good were they against the rags ? I think it's super harsh when normally very reliable players have a bad day at the office, to start castigating them for it.

Even the substitution which in the heat of the post match fury I felt Pellegrini had gotten wrong, was in fact spot on. We were winning and creating more than Villa ... bringing Nasri off was the sensible thing to do with Bayern in mid week.

On the tactical discussion from last night ... about switching to 451 when we took the lead ... no thanks. I don't ever want City to be a play the percentages pragmatic team like that. It's fucking boring and if it means we win a few trophies less because we don't shut up shop every time we take the lead ... well I'm really not bothered.

Anyway .... Forza Pellegrini. Deserves far more respect than he's afforded by the obsessed with Mancini few.

I think there is a case for using 4-5-1 in certain instances; especially away from home, and I would definitely prefer us to use 4-3-3 as our basic shape, but I would prefer to watch us play predominantly on the front foot. If it costs us the odd game: OK. However, I wouldn't want it to cost us many trophies or our place in the top 4. Like everything in life, it's about getting the balance right.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

We could only be blamed for their last goal, Kompany and Nasty got caught out. We need to start picking up points away from home.

It happens. I've slept on it and don't feel half as bad as I did yesterday. We definitely need to start getting results to go with performances away from home ... but I don't see the problem as being terminal because yesterday wasn't a typical away performance. We didn't struggle to create, we weren't limp and slow passing the ball around in front of the opposition. We played with purpose, created chances, scored two, etc. It's hard to even fault Vinny/Nasty. Just how good were they against the rags ? I think it's super harsh when normally very reliable players have a bad day at the office, to start castigating them for it.

Even the substitution which in the heat of the post match fury I felt Pellegrini had gotten wrong, was in fact spot on. We were winning and creating more than Villa ... bringing Nasri off was the sensible thing to do with Bayern in mid week.

On the tactical discussion from last night ... about switching to 451 when we took the lead ... no thanks. I don't ever want City to be a play the percentages pragmatic team like that. It's fucking boring and if it means we win a few trophies less because we don't shut up shop every time we take the lead ... well I'm really not bothered.

Anyway .... Forza Pellegrini. Deserves far more respect than he's afforded by the obsessed with Mancini few.

You've got to be kidding me. Sounds like a pre-emptive excuse for failure. Doesn't matter that we lost again, cos at least we were true to our attacking principles?! Is that really what your hopes and expectations were when we announced that Pellegrini would be our new manager? I want us to play good football, but ultimately I want us to win more, and I would be willing to bet that Sheikh Mansour hasn't invested close on a billion dollars in the club, so that we can play like naive schoolboys, relentlessly ploughing forward at a time when an occasional bit of pragmatism might put us on the trophy map

 

[Anonymous]

You've got to be kidding me. Sounds like a pre-emptive excuse for failure. Doesn't matter that we lost again, cos at least we were true to our attacking principles?! Is that really what your hopes and expectations were when we announced that Pellegrini would be our new manager? I want us to play good football, but ultimately I want us to win more, and I would be willing to bet that Sheikh Mansour hasn't invested close on a billion dollars in the club, so that we can play like naive schoolboys, relentlessly ploughing forward at a time when an occasional bit of pragmatism might put us on the trophy map

Really? Based on what? We'll win the league this season so whatever you think i'm preempting I'm not.

As for playing like "naive schoolboys" ... At 2 - 1 up we were battering Villa and they struggled to get the ball off us. I'm delighted we have a manager who doesn't take off a forward in that situation, stick a totem pole like Garcia on the pitch, and invite Villa onto us.<br /><br />-- Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:26 pm --<br /><br />

Like everything in life, it's about getting the balance right.

Yep ... and yesterday's result wasn't a problem of the balance between attack and defence being wrong IMO. Anyway ... I'd now like to beat Bayern just to wash yesterday completely from my system ... :)

 

[Marvin]

We could only be blamed for their last goal, Kompany and Nasty got caught out. We need to start picking up points away from home.

It happens. I've slept on it and don't feel half as bad as I did yesterday. We definitely need to start getting results to go with performances away from home ... but I don't see the problem as being terminal because yesterday wasn't a typical away performance. We didn't struggle to create, we weren't limp and slow passing the ball around in front of the opposition. We played with purpose, created chances, scored two, etc. It's hard to even fault Vinny/Nasty. Just how good were they against the rags ? I think it's super harsh when normally very reliable players have a bad day at the office, to start castigating them for it.

Even the substitution which in the heat of the post match fury I felt Pellegrini had gotten wrong, was in fact spot on. We were winning and creating more than Villa ... bringing Nasri off was the sensible thing to do with Bayern in mid week.

On the tactical discussion from last night ... about switching to 451 when we took the lead ... no thanks. I don't ever want City to be a play the percentages pragmatic team like that. It's fucking boring and if it means we win a few trophies less because we don't shut up shop every time we take the lead ... well I'm really not bothered.

Anyway .... Forza Pellegrini. Deserves far more respect than he's afforded by the obsessed with Mancini few.

Kompany and Pellegrini were both bemused that we had lost that game and they are both right.

Take City's form since the Hull game and we're on an upward curve.

Yesterday's loss was just one of those kicks in the teeth that football can give you when you don't press home your advantage.

 

[the originalkippaxman]

Never good to lose a game that we dominated through out. What I found strange about yesterday was the amount of fans that seemed more concerned that United were getting beat 2-1. At that stage we were leading 2-1 then we all know what happened.

I am not saying us fans were to blame we all have our views on who and what was the reason. For me though I couldn't give 2 fucks how the shit are going on I am more interested in the game I am watching.

 

[bluemoon32]

We could only be blamed for their last goal, Kompany and Nasty got caught out. We need to start picking up points away from home.

It happens. I've slept on it and don't feel half as bad as I did yesterday. We definitely need to start getting results to go with performances away from home ... but I don't see the problem as being terminal because yesterday wasn't a typical away performance. We didn't struggle to create, we weren't limp and slow passing the ball around in front of the opposition. We played with purpose, created chances, scored two, etc. It's hard to even fault Vinny/Nasty. Just how good were they against the rags ? I think it's super harsh when normally very reliable players have a bad day at the office, to start castigating them for it.

Even the substitution which in the heat of the post match fury I felt Pellegrini had gotten wrong, was in fact spot on. We were winning and creating more than Villa ... bringing Nasri off was the sensible thing to do with Bayern in mid week.

On the tactical discussion from last night ... about switching to 451 when we took the lead ... no thanks. I don't ever want City to be a play the percentages pragmatic team like that. It's fucking boring and if it means we win a few trophies less because we don't shut up shop every time we take the lead ... well I'm really not bothered.

Anyway .... Forza Pellegrini. Deserves far more respect than he's afforded by the obsessed with Mancini few.

Kompany and Pellegrini were both bemused that we had lost that game and they are both right.

Take City's form since the Hull game and we're on an upward curve.

Yesterday's loss was just one of those kicks in the teeth that football can give you when you don't press home your advantage.

Which would be true if we didn't have the elephant in the room that is our ongoing issue when playing away.