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Don’t let a few dullards giving you shit from a car window give you a xenophobic outlook on a nation of people. A car full of bellends do not represent a nation.

And I still haven’t got a clue what that’s got to do with people thinking England will go all the way in the tournament?
I'm broad minded enough old enough and experienced enough not to tar everyone with the same brush. That would be stupid. Of course there are many fatalistic decent England fans. Have also experienced many racist bellends sadly. Too many for comfort. Despite them, I actually hope England do well.

It has got everything to do with those racists being full of the same boastful (and deluded) crap complete with sense of entitlement and misplaced sense of superiority. Oh the irony. Try walking a mile in my shoes mate.
 
There have always been cunts and some of these are racist cunts. It doesn't help when we have extremely divisive politicians lurching inexorably to the right, at home and abroad.

Johnson and Thatcher cloaking themselves in the Union flag is just as horrible as Blair doing same. The football press are pigshit ignorant and I think the rest of the media ain't much different. When politicians use increasingly strident language against anyone not the same don't be shocked if the press do the same. Unfortunately in my experience this behaviour has emboldened the previously mentioned racists who are far more mainstream than you would like. Cf the granuid and how differently they report on us as a club. Racism isn't just about the N word or the P word but has many nuances.
Bang on. Plenty of subtle and not so subtle racism in the Guardian. They would not dare report on American owned clubs like they do Arab owned clubs. Even though City is owned by an individual they lie about state ownership and try to smear City with "human rights"associations yet there is no mention of the appalling human rights abuses at the US Southern border when it comes to Liverpool and United. Equally as relevant / irrelevant.
 
Yep and it’s deplorable but this convo started off about jingoistic behaviour in football and as mentioned before wanting your home nation to win and not any of the others is not Racist
Where did i say not wanting others to win is racist? I didn't. If you read the thread you will see what kind of racism I and others have experienced from England fans several times.
 
Page just been on. Bet the players feel good after he told the BBC it was an achievement "with this group of players" just to qualify for the finals. Also said they were the best team for 30 minutes. Delusional
 
Page just been on. Bet the players feel good after he told the BBC it was an achievement "with this group of players" just to qualify for the finals. Also said they were the best team for 30 minutes. Delusional
Didn’t he also say they didn’t deserve that… I get he’s protecting his players but they absolutely deserved to lose, and possibly by more
 
I'm broad minded enough old enough and experienced enough not to tar everyone with the same brush. That would be stupid. Of course there are many fatalistic decent England fans. Have also experienced many racist bellends sadly. Too many for comfort. Despite them, I actually hope England do well.

It has got everything to do with those racists being full of the same boastful (and deluded) crap complete with sense of entitlement and misplaced sense of superiority. Oh the irony. Try walking a mile in my shoes mate.
As I’ve said, even as a white man (and boy) ive experienced racism aimed at me, aimed at me and my mates as a group, or white people in general. And so has my Father who was once pinned up against the wall in the toilets of the Reno and had a knife pulled on him and told to leave or they’d use it on him because my Dad was a white man and was out having a drink with a black girl and these particular black lads didn’t like that.

There’s a hell of a lot more anti-white sentiment in the language and attitudes of some people of different races than you might realise.

I went with my school basketball team (all white lads) to Stretford High for a game back in the mid 90s and their team were nearly all black lads and we were subject to racist comments all through the game and there were lads waiting outside our minibus as we were leaving giving us racist abuse.

I was once called a honky and a cracker by a black school pupil when I was working as a cover teacher in the late 00s at a school in Salford. I don’t find those words racist, but just anti-white in sentiment and just no need for it (especially since they’re both American words). Going off my family tree it’s far more likely my inner-city Manchester ancestors went on strike in support of black American slaves than it is my having any ancestors who were slave owners.

I’ve also been sat on a Met behind two Asian (South Asian, couldn’t pin point exactly where their heritage would be from exactly though) lads who were having a conversation about white people that was as derogatory and racist as it gets.

Granted these are all fairly minor incidents, but incidents all the same. I’Im not saying that’s as bad as you’ve faced in your life, and it’s fucking shit that anyone has to face this sort of shit, but it’s certainly not the case of it being one way.
 
As I’ve said, even as a white man (and boy) ive experienced racism aimed at me, aimed at me and my mates as a group, or white people in general. And so has my Father who was once pinned up against the wall in the toilets of the Reno and had a knife pulled on him and told to leave or they’d use it on him because my Dad was a white man and was out having a drink with a black girl and these particular black lads didn’t like that.

There’s a hell of a lot more anti-white sentiment in the language and attitudes of some people of different races than you might realise.

I went with my school basketball team (all white lads) to Stretford High for a game back in the mid 90s and their team were nearly all black lads and we were subject to racist comments all through the game and there were lads waiting outside our minibus as we were leaving giving us racist abuse.

I was once called a honky and a cracker by a black school pupil when I was working as a cover teacher in the late 00s at a school in Salford. I don’t find those words racist, but just anti-white in sentiment and just no need for it (especially since they’re both American words). Going off my family tree it’s far more likely my inner-city Manchester ancestors went on strike in support of black American slaves than it is my having any ancestors who were slave owners.

I’ve also been sat on a Met behind two Asian (South Asian, couldn’t pin point exactly where their heritage would be from exactly though) lads who were having a conversation about white people that was as derogatory and racist as it gets.

Granted these are all fairly minor incidents, but incidents all the same. I’Im not saying that’s as bad as you’ve faced in your life, and it’s fucking shit that anyone has to face this sort of shit, but it’s certainly not the case of it being one way.
Oh indeed I've seen anti-white racism and a close friend has experienced it. It's all bad no matter, who the perpetrators are. Challenge it. Report it if needs be. Get the fuckers kicked out. I'm not surprised you experienced that sadly and it's just as bad.

I've never suggested it's all one way. Check.
 
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Jingoistic and xenophobia behaviour is not the same as racism.
xenophobic

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having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.

"xenophobic attitudes"
 

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