We need an A-list signing ?

[Bluesiam]

Re: We need an A-list signing

I think you're wrong, the reason being we shouldn't be buying superstars, we should be producing them & that's now our aim.
You'll start to see more academy players coming through & they'll be the next Isco or Cavani IMO. Denis Suarez is already being mentioned in the Spanish media as "the next Iniesta" but to be honest I don't want the "next" anything, I want future players in years to come to be the next Guidetti or Lopez etc etc.

Yeah, because Barca didn't spunk £45 million on Neymar did they! We have a wafer thin squad and a misfiring youth set up. Every top team out there buys big every summer. Look at MUnich, Real and Barcelona last season, the season before and likely this season, we had two season of good buys and Khaldoon sticks his business oar in and it goes to shit. Football is about prestige, this is what the Boss wants, Khaldoon is smart enough to hire people with a good track record, but at one of the worlds biggest clubs. We aren't and will have to pay the City extra until we go direct.

I'm not sure that argument really stands up.

I know this is an apparent contradiction, but with several clubs having the money to now buy any player, but a pretty woeful economic situation across Europe, I have a feeling we will see the Arsenal and Dortmund model becoming more common. City are looking more and more like this.
Anyway, the 'Galactico' policy has not always borne fruit. For Every Ronaldo there is a Kaka. David Villa, Sanchez, Ibra in Spain, then Schevchenko, Torres, Robinhio and Berbatov didn't exactly change the world in their respective Leagues.
I know the shirt selling argument... bla bla bla... did Robinhio really sell us that many shirts? The 'brand' won't sell until the team is successful too.

 

[Bluesiam]

Re: We need an A-list signing

I think you're wrong, the reason being we shouldn't be buying superstars, we should be producing them & that's now our aim.
You'll start to see more academy players coming through & they'll be the next Isco or Cavani IMO. Denis Suarez is already being mentioned in the Spanish media as "the next Iniesta" but to be honest I don't want the "next" anything, I want future players in years to come to be the next Guidetti or Lopez etc etc.

Yeah, because Barca didn't spunk £45 million on Neymar did they! We have a wafer thin squad and a misfiring youth set up. Every top team out there buys big every summer. Look at MUnich, Real and Barcelona last season, the season before and likely this season, we had two season of good buys and Khaldoon sticks his business oar in and it goes to shit. Football is about prestige, this is what the Boss wants, Khaldoon is smart enough to hire people with a good track record, but at one of the worlds biggest clubs. We aren't and will have to pay the City extra until we go direct.

I'm not sure that argument really stands up.

I know this is an apparent contradiction, but with several clubs having the money to now buy any player, but a pretty woeful economic situation across Europe, I have a feeling we will see the Arsenal and Dortmund model becoming more common. City are looking more and more like this.
Anyway, the 'Galactico' policy has not always borne fruit. For Every Ronaldo there is a Kaka. David Villa, Sanchez, Ibra in Spain, then Schevchenko, Torres, Robinhio and Berbatov didn't exactly change the world in their respective Leagues.
I know the shirt selling argument... bla bla bla... did Robinhio really sell us that many shirts? The 'brand' won't sell until the team is successful too.

 

[not my fault!]

Re: We need an A-list signing

I think you're wrong, the reason being we shouldn't be buying superstars, we should be producing them & that's now our aim.
You'll start to see more academy players coming through & they'll be the next Isco or Cavani IMO. Denis Suarez is already being mentioned in the Spanish media as "the next Iniesta" but to be honest I don't want the "next" anything, I want future players in years to come to be the next Guidetti or Lopez etc etc.

Yeah, because Barca didn't spunk £45 million on Neymar did they! We have a wafer thin squad and a misfiring youth set up. Every top team out there buys big every summer. Look at MUnich, Real and Barcelona last season, the season before and likely this season, we had two season of good buys and Khaldoon sticks his business oar in and it goes to shit. Football is about prestige, this is what the Boss wants, Khaldoon is smart enough to hire people with a good track record, but at one of the worlds biggest clubs. We aren't and will have to pay the City extra until we go direct.

We ain't Barca! That's my point & their revenues are around £350m pa compared to our £120m or around that. They are a global brand & have been for years, we're the new boys.
The owner is not daft as you say, & that's why he won't spunk money on players when he can buy the future & develop them. As I said the plan is 50% of the first team to be homegrown within 5 years, that tells you the long term plan is to not spend money on superstars but rather to produce them.
We are a small club in a big pond as it stands, we are way down the pecking order. It amazes me how fellow blues have been convinced we're a world force lol. One PL title & an FA cup doesn't make us as attractive as Barça or even Utd... Having money to spend doesn't mean players want to join us & we can't force them, it's not a case of "ffs it's only £20m more to meet his buyout" it's about being taken seriously & not being fucked over. If we let it happen once it'll never stop & we are now taking a stand.
I'd be happy (not happy but I'd accept it) to finish 2nd to the rags again if it meant long term we'd dominate or at least win on a regular basis. It's about progression & not trying to play real life Fifa or some other computer game I'm afraid.

 

[mancityscot]

personally dont think we'll pull off an A list signing this summer, because they're either too expensive or simply dont want to move to us.

 

[not my fault!]

personally dont think we'll pull off an A list signing this summer, because they're either too expensive or simply dont want to move to us.

Exactly!

 

[BlakeTheBlue]

Re: We need an A-list signing

What if I told you we are bulding the fondation of the team now, and looking to bring Messi next summer




Pure guesswork but I have a feeling this will happen

I think it's only a matter of time, not if but when we Mae a bid. There is a reason they purchased a young Naymar.

I have had a certain feeling since day 1 of the takeover that we will see Messi in City colours. It looks more and more likely. Like someone else said: It is almost as certain as Mourinho returning to Chelsea. It is something that is bound to happen

Are you guys living on planet Earth?... Where the hell do you get these wild ideas from?... It's embarrassing.

 

[not my fault!]

Re: We need an A-list signing

I think it's only a matter of time, not if but when we Mae a bid. There is a reason they purchased a young Naymar.

I have had a certain feeling since day 1 of the takeover that we will see Messi in City colours. It looks more and more likely. Like someone else said: It is almost as certain as Mourinho returning to Chelsea. It is something that is bound to happen

Are you guys living on planet Earth?... Where the hell do you get these wild ideas from?... It's embarrassing.

I see no reason why in a few seasons we won't try, I doubt he'd ever come but I think it's a certainty we'll at least try & broker a deal.
That's not a fantasy it's looking at the bigger picture. Like I say I don't see him leaving Barça but if even just for publicity to show we believe we can attract that calibre of player, then I think you'll see a bid at some stage down the line.

 

[BlueOz]

If we win the PL and CL next season, all our players will be A list ;-)

 

[Bill]

Re: We need an A-list signing

I do but we ain't Barça, tbf we're not anywhere in their league with regards to attracting players.
As for our academy we haven't a clue how they'll adapt to first team action. I can see Guidetti & Suarez doing well this year with possibly Lopez too.

Just because we aren't Barca, doesn't mean we cant bring A-list players to the club.

If its a choice between, City, Real, Barca, Munich or even the Rags... Them 9/10 would pick City last, winning one PL trophy & an FA cup doesn't suddenly make us attractive. Isco being the perfect example, yeh sure his dad got a bung but if he really wanted us he'd of dug his heels in.

Correct and exactly why we should have cashed in on our winning the title. That was the time to go and buy big. We really really fucked up last summer.

 

[Why Always Ste]

Superstars aren't born... They are created.

Alot of players you are looking at now have come from different clubs they are currently at.
Bale at Southampton, Cavani at Danubio for examples.

I enjoyed the big name signings as a kid, but the real game is not Fifa on the Xbox and throwing aload of superstars together doesn't guarantee anything.
How quickly a club can become a laughing stock after signing a marquee player, winning no trophies and being the target for negative views in the Media.

Engaging with the 5mil Facebook Likes, the 1mil Twitter followers and the many people on the Youtube Channel (many of whom currently support other teams) is a big Club strategy and signing players and having them regularly involved in Social Media cements the players place on the back of kids shirts everywhere, providing good results obviously.

It seems many Blues are becoming impatient and want more, more, more.
Yes, I want us to win but I'd rather we as fans were patient enough to allow projects such as the Academy to be built and nurture the potential there.
It will take time, you'll be on here in a few seasons asking why the next Messi hasn't walked through the doors yet.... You need to realise Rome wasn't built in a day and going down this route will transform the club significantly more than doing what most clubs with some cash always do, from Portsmouth to PSG - buying established players.
The way PSG are doing it, these superstars are so disposable and plastic to them.
I've lost count of who is actually in their squad. Big names will come and go there and many people won't even realise who the fuck played for them.

if we get the academy right - the trophies will come. You'll see a kid progressing through the social media channels at age 14, and witnessing him develop at 21, hopefully making it on the world stage in Sky Blue... You'll remember his name far more than some plastic money grabbing **** who won a few trophies whilst at PSG for 2 seasons.

The balance is important though, and the likes of Aguero will inspire the Academy players, with them learning alot training alongside already established players.