schfc6 said:
nashark, you seem to have some weird delusions of grandeur, and a very low intelligence level. You may claim to have a great football knowledge, but if you do, you don't articulate it well.
I'll be honest: I sleep better when people, instead of challenging the points I made about Balotelli, decide to turn this into a thread about my character. It really is rewarding and confirms what I already know.
I challenged your points, I tried to point out to you the differences, but you won't see them. You seem to think Balotelli's talents lay within his physical attributes, I suggest that this is wrong. I do feel Mario is very intelligent both on and off the field. He is multi lingual, and very popular amongst players who seem very intelligent, Kompany, Viera and Mancini. To shout Rooney Rooney Rooney at that brass in San Carlo is comedy genius. I did point out why I thought he was intelligent on the pitch, but you've decided to ignore that.
schfc6 said:
You have formed your opinions based on those of others
Wrong. I've used the opinion of someone credible to support my own opinion.
yet it's wrong to like him because he is popular.
schfc6 said:
You question Mario's intelligence levels, can you speak two languages fluently? Could you pass a driving test in a foreign language in a foreign country?
My point was about his intelligence related to football. That distinction aside, I can put on a bib.
Intelligence related to Football, I gave you his 1st goal against United to illustrate that very point. His movement and finish were that of a highly intelligent player, intelligence beyond his years. Every pundit and his dog seemed to agree there.
schfc6 said:
you have claimed Jose didn't rate him, you were proved wrong, Mourinho did rate him. You have claimed if he were any good he would have played more often at Inter, ignoring the fact that he was 18/19 at the time and competing for the 1 striker birth with Et'o and Milito two top level experienced European strikers.
I said that Balotelli has enormous ability when it comes to shooting. Also, I happen to think that's about all he's got, other than his physical attributes. But even if I said he has zero ability, it wouldn't be the case that I was wrong on Mourinho's say-so.
Shooting? Are you 9? It's called finishing in the real world. I agree he is a very talented finisher, he also has exceptional movement, and often isolates his man one on one, or gets himself goal side despite not having real pace. His movement reminds me of Andy Cole.
What Mourinho said, in this instance, doesn't bother me. All I know is that he rarely started. Actions speak louder than words and all that. There may be other reasons for his exclusion as you've mentioned, but then again, there may be other reasons for Mourinho saying that he could become a good player if he trains harder. That sort of statement might serve to make Balotelli train harder than any actual reflection of Mourinho's beliefs.
So we arrive at the same point: does Mourinho rate him?
None of us know for sure, but we can look at the fact that he wasn't a starter and we can look at Mourinho's comments after he'd left Inter where he says that 'he sometimes doesn't know how to use his brain' as evidence to support what I was saying: Balotelli is not an intelligent footballer.
There's a few pundits as well I could have used to support my argument, but Mourinho seems to be regarded as one of the most knowledgeable football figures of all time.
We could just simply put down his limited starting opportunities to him being 18? How many 18 year olds command a starting birth in a side challenging for League and European honours? If he were 28 and still not a regular I would agree, however he was 18 and competing with 2 world class strikers for 1 position. To question anything based on him not starting at Inter is not intelligent.
Mourinho has said he could be the best player in the world, if he applied himself, perhaps just perhaps Mourinho isn't the guy to help bring on a highly talented youth players, as he has no record of doing anything other than building a side out of expensive established players. He left Inter just what 18 months ago and they are left with the oldest side ever to compete in the CL>
schfc6 said:
is movement is brilliant, his positioning excellent, yes his decision making is sometimes a little off to the dam right ridiculous, but that is what genius gives you. Welback is an interesting comparison. yet as with comparisons in football a little bigoted. Yes they are young but that is where is stops, Welbeck is a grafter, runs all day and strong a common thing with British strikers. Balotelli is different, people expect him to be something different. because he's a big black lad, they expect him to have all the attributes of Ish Miller. His positioning, movement, touch and finishing are similar to Weah or Ronaldo(original) like when we signed Aguero everyone thought we had the next Tevez, Aguero is far more like Romario than Tevez. People expect him to chase everything, put a real shift in, would they do this if he was a long haired Italian no10? Did fans expect Di Canio, Zola, Bergkamp, Cantona, Henry to chase round like Efan Ekuku?
You have compared him to Welbeck who most seem to agree is decent, but nothing special. Similar ages, Balotelli has starred twice against United, started the season on fire, scoring all types of goal.
Obviously, there's a lot there I disagree with as you can see from my earlier posts, but I supported that with examples of those qualities/lack of qualities in action in a real game.
"a real game" You mean like the FA Cup semi? Or the demolition Derby? Are they real games? The FA Cup Vs Villa? I could go on? The kid is 21, what do you think he is using to achieve these levels of performance. Shooting?
schfc6 said:
Fergie and Mourinho have gone on record admiring his talent
I've offered my opposition to Mourinho's purported admiration and he himself makes it obvious that he follows my line of argument.
What's Fergie said other than 'he's a very emotional player' which, to me, comes across as a slight against him?
Fergie has gone on record saying he could well be the next Ronaldo... I rest my case. You can't be the next Ronaldo without intelligence.......More evidence that he is not governed by his intellect for the purposes of football.
I think this amounts to a difference in opinion but, to my mind, he is not an intelligent footballer and as much as you might disagree with that pointing to his trophies and what not, I am supported by somebody who has won more trophies than you and Balotelli and is much more admired for his ability to read the game than you or Balotelli.
