Wembley 99 Play Off final - 25th Anniversary

About to finish "David J. Mooney's "Looks Like Scunny Next Season" (currently on the Joe Royle chapter) it is a great account of the events with a chapter interview for each of the main actors of that momentous occasion. Wish I was there.
 
Sorry if already posted but did anyone see the SLY docu on that 98/99 season? I couldnt believe it when Goater said the team had to warm up at a local school and mini bus it in cos they were booed if they warmed up on the pitch.What a load of shite,they were spineless until Morrison turned up thats why.

Then the commentator during the Villa v Derby play off quoted it as gospel.Who needs enemies with friends like that.

What a twat for saying that Goater,insult to decent Blues at that time.

It’s entirely true. For the first half of that season ther relationship was so strained between fans and players that Willie Donnaghy wrote a piece in the MEN lambasting the negativity in the stands. It’s one of the reasons we went down through the divisions in the late 90s- players were scared of the home crowd.
 
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They defo did,I just question Goaters motives for a good story at City fans expense.
Shaun Goater is a top lad,he adores City and he has never taken his success for granted.He took plenty of shit from the stands on occasions but his relentless pursuit to prove his quality won most,if not all,over.

That period in our history was incredibly turbulent,unpredictable and toxic,and he is only recalling it as he remembers it.He,IMO,would never intentionally say or do anything to harm our club.
 
Sorry if already posted but did anyone see the SLY docu on that 98/99 season? I couldnt believe it when Goater said the team had to warm up at a local school and mini bus it in cos they were booed if they warmed up on the pitch.What a load of shite,they were spineless until Morrison turned up thats why.

Then the commentator during the Villa v Derby play off quoted it as gospel.Who needs enemies with friends like that.

What a twat for saying that Goater,insult to decent Blues at that time.


It's well documented as true. Mentioned a few times in "Caught beneath the landslide"
 
Shaun Goater is a top lad,he adores City and he has never taken his success for granted.He took plenty of shit from the stands on occasions but his relentless pursuit to prove his quality won most,if not all,over

That period in our history was incredibly turbulent,unpredictable and toxic,and he is only recalling it as he remembers it.He,IMO,would never intentionally say or do anything to harm our club.

I hope youre right. Really pissed me off.

We have always had boo boys (Edghill) but to state they were getting booed when they were warming up is an insult to all Blues at that time.No way.

SLY made sure they turned it into fact for all the sofa twats.

My memory of that team was that they were gutless getting pushed about by inferior players until the legend that is Andy Morrison turned up and manned them up.
 
It's well documented as true. Mentioned a few times in "Caught beneath the landslide"

Sorry not having that they were booed warming up.I was there home and away in those days and although we had boo boys that was when they were playing as until Morrizon arrived they were gutless and couldnt take the pressure.
Thats why they went to the school.
 
Official club documentary


Don't know why but it brought tears to my eyes, that. I think for the first time I remember what I said to my brother after their second goal had sunk in, about how we have to put up with another season in that 'stinking' division, who we needed to get rid of, probably Goater. We were having a right in-depth conversation but it got cut short, for some reason.
 
I hope youre right. Really pissed me off.

We have always had boo boys (Edghill) but to state they were getting booed when they were walming up is an insult to all Blues at that time.No way.

SLY made sure they turned it into fact for all the sofa twats.

My memory of that team was that they were gutless getting pushed about by inferior players until the legend that is Andy Morrison turned up and manned them up.

Plenty were telling them they were gutless, mate, and I'm sure that would have included the warm up. It reached a climax in the cup at Halifax which is what prompted Willie to write his piece which included a line "There are some people at this club who are wallowing in negativity". I've heard City players names booed when announced on the tannoy before the game. I'm sure Goater was exaggerating it a bit but the point he made is dead right: the players were kept away from the pitch as long as possible so they didn't pick up the tension/pressure in the crowd.
 
Plenty were telling them they were gutless, mate, and I'm sure that would have included the warm up. It reached a climax in the cup at Halifax which is what prompted Willie to write his piece which included a line "There are some people at this club who are wallowing in negativity". I've heard City players names booed when announced on the tannoy before the game. I'm sure Goater was exaggerating it a bit but the point he made is dead right: the players were kept away from the pitch as long as possible so they didn't pick up the tension/pressure in the crowd.

Kept away re tension/pressure yes but he did say warming up which is the bit SLY picked up on and I am upset about.

We need all Blues to stick together,will have a word for sure next time I see him. ;)
 
Thing I love about that documentary is that it's not focused too heavily on Dickov's goal. Yes, absolutely we all do it, but let's be honest, there's no shortage of stuff about that moment. Instead it gives all of them time to breathe and explains the whole story. Superbly done.

And by the way, does Kevin Horlock have a mirror stored away in his attic somewhere?
 
Sorry not having that they were booed warming up.I was there home and away in those days and although we had boo boys that was when they were playing as until Morrizon arrived they were gutless and couldnt take the pressure.
Thats why they went to the school.

I can't say for certain as it's before my match-going time, but I've literally just read about it in landslide, and I've read and heard about it from other sources too. Maybe it's a myth, as I say, I wasn't there so can't say.
 
One thing I noticed about that film is that lots of those lads still attend City games as a fan.

It's exactly why it's not fair when people criticise Lee Dixon for being Arsenal now when he was a boyhood City fan. Of course he is - he spent his whole career there. These lads were part of something special, and City is now their club, and they come and support.
 
It's exactly why it's not fair when people criticise Lee Dixon for being Arsenal now when he was a boyhood City fan. Of course he is - he spent his whole career there. These lads were part of something special, and City is now their club, and they come and support.

I wouldn't criticise Dixon for that. I'd expect it. In general, footballers and people within the game don't support teams in the same way that the sort of fan who comes on a forum does. That's why you hear players so often say "I supported them as a boy". Once you are inside football, I think , for a lot of people the "magic" dissipates and you have clubs who you identify with or like rather than being a rabid fan of one club. But then these players have kids and they choose a club, often their father's. I bet most of the kids of those 99 players are City fans now.
 
Shaun Goater is a top lad,he adores City and he has never taken his success for granted.He took plenty of shit from the stands on occasions but his relentless pursuit to prove his quality won most,if not all,over.

That period in our history was incredibly turbulent,unpredictable and toxic,and he is only recalling it as he remembers it.He,IMO,would never intentionally say or do anything to harm our club.
Toxic is right. How anybody can bemoan what we have now with a hankering for those days is beyond me.
 
I wouldn't criticise Dixon for that. I'd expect it. In general, footballers and people within the game don't support teams in the same way that the sort of fan who comes on a forum does. That's why you hear players so often say "I supported them as a boy". Once you are inside football, I think , for a lot of people the "magic" dissipates and you have clubs who you identify with or like rather than being a rabid fan of one club. But then these players have kids and they choose a club, often their father's. I bet most of the kids of those 99 players are City fans now.

Well put. And of course, for these players they genuinely are part of the club and what it has become since. That's something fans can't quite understand in terms of the feeling of it. Perhaps in terms of a sports team we might have played for maybe in a small way. I've got friends who support my local cricket club for whom I played for years, and it is slightly different in terms of how they view it and how I view it. Not directly comparable of course, but perhaps a hint.
 
Well put. And of course, for these players they genuinely are part of the club and what it has become since. That's something fans can't quite understand in terms of the feeling of it. Perhaps in terms of a sports team we might have played for maybe in a small way. I've got friends who support my local cricket club for whom I played for years, and it is slightly different in terms of how they view it and how I view it. Not directly comparable of course, but perhaps a hint.

For most of those lads the playoff final was the highlight of their careers, and it now sits so firmly in City folklore that you're exactly right: it's part of who they are.

Slight aside, a mate of mine was friends with a City player a few years ago and I remember him saying he wished he wasn't, because he didn't like hearing some of the insider stuff.
 
Saw Guy Butters at Brighton on title winning day. I was in their hospitality and he was working for Brighton in the hospitality lounge. Had a laugh with him telling him that it would not have been possible without his help
 
i was in the olympic gallery at wembley watching in disbelief as we pissed away our chances of winning the game. i still sat there, stubbornly, when the 2nd gills goal went in. but those few moments were torture.

i was actually staring down the line of dickovs shot for the equalizer and thought it was over the bar, crouched down with my head in hands, as distraught as i could get for a full half second, until everyone around me were stood up going mental.

it was, and remains, the most tense i have ever been at a football match. even just before the aguerooo moment my thoughts were not as bleak as our 1999 predicament. it was like the club being handed down a death sentence if we failed to seal promotion.

what a relief when weaver saved the last pen. went on the piss in watford that night on an absolute high - great days, great days indeed!!!

if ever a football club had a 'sliding doors' moment, that was it!!
 

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