Were you Swales out, or Swales in?

He thought bringing Malcolm back was playing his big hand, then like a poor gambler he chased his losses. He should have gone in the early 80s.

Even his friends wanted him out towards the end, even if it was just for the good of his health but he wouldn't give it up, and ultimately it could be argued it killed him.
 
I remember forward with Franny than 'Swales out' but I do remember 'Franny out' and fans massing at Maine Road reception singing 'Dig him up' refering to Swales.
 
My utter disdain of Swales was low anyway, then I read Paul Lakes book and it plummeted to even further depths.
 
Out - always hated a man in cuban heels particularly when they have a bad weave!!!!
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Was it the S*n or the Mirror that was dishing out stickers (with their own logo on, of course) saying ''Don't save the Swales''?

Also loved the headline when he left after defeat against Cardiff in the FA Cup saying ''S-Wales Out''!!
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it was the mirror
I remember getting lee 9 on the back of my 93 home shirt and when walking home down yew tree road I used to get beeps off cars and pats on backs by fellow walkers
I was only 11 but even then I could tell we were being run wrong

I would like to ask maybe one for gary james
from the early protests in the early 80s till he finally left when franny took over was there any other serious candidate or interested party who put themselves forward to takeover from him apart from Lee ??
 
Gary James said:
I didn't have any feelings either way until 1981-82 when I saw him on a debate show talking about million pound footballers - he was boasting about how City were the 1st team to have 3 separate £1m plus players and how we'll keep on spending. Even at 13 or 14 I knew his approach seemed wrong especially as the Club started making cutbacks in coaching staff and playing squad that same season. Then he sold Trevor Francis and that made me totally Swales Out.

I took part in almost all the demos from 1984 onwards (I didn't do any before 84 and there were so many after 84 that I must have missed a couple somewhere along the way).

Over the last few weeks I've been researching film footage for the project I'm doing with the North West Film Archive on City and I have to say that seeing interviews with Swales from 1973 to 1981 I wish the demos had started a lot earlier. I cannot believe some of the comments he made publicly and wish we'd all been wise a little earlier.

A great club became a laughing stock under him and led to the situation where we're now seen as a club with 'no history' - it's the period 1978-2007 that's out of character with our history, not 2008 onwards!
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Gary
Was this the same debate show that was hosted by Tony Wilson in 1982?

I think I'm right in saying that Peter Swales and Martin Edwards were arguing that high transfer fees (£million signings) were good for the game and on the other side of the debate was Gordon Taylor who was giving an alternative point of view.

There then followed a Q & A session from the studio audience of which one just happened to be Malcolm Allison who chipped in with his twopennyworth. Allison then went on to explain how City signed Steve Daley. (I can't remember the exact sums of money) Allison contacted John Barnwell (Wolves manager) and enquired about Daley and how much he'd cost, Barnwell said 900k, Allison offered 500k. After some negotiations Barnwell and Alison still couldn't agree a fee with Allison offering around 750k so negotiations broke down. Allison then said that he went to Portugal over the weekend to look a couple of players and left Tony Book in charge of an away game at Spurs. When Allison arrived back to take charge of the team for a League cup game vs Sheffield Wednesday he was told by Swales that fee had been agreed for Daley, when Allison asked about the fee, Swales replied £1.4 million. Allison then claimed that there was a very heated exchange between the two of them.

Tony Wilson then walked over to Swales and said "Peter, would you like to reply to that?" Swales said "No Comment", when Wilson pressed him again, Swales again said "No Comment".

Now I can't remember exact word for word how the debate went, but what I've quoted is pretty accurate and it'll be interesting to see if GJ or any other board members can shed any more light on that Tv programme
 
Haddenham said:
Gary James said:
I didn't have any feelings either way until 1981-82 when I saw him on a debate show talking about million pound footballers - he was boasting about how City were the 1st team to have 3 separate £1m plus players and how we'll keep on spending. Even at 13 or 14 I knew his approach seemed wrong especially as the Club started making cutbacks in coaching staff and playing squad that same season. Then he sold Trevor Francis and that made me totally Swales Out.

I took part in almost all the demos from 1984 onwards (I didn't do any before 84 and there were so many after 84 that I must have missed a couple somewhere along the way).

Over the last few weeks I've been researching film footage for the project I'm doing with the North West Film Archive on City and I have to say that seeing interviews with Swales from 1973 to 1981 I wish the demos had started a lot earlier. I cannot believe some of the comments he made publicly and wish we'd all been wise a little earlier.

A great club became a laughing stock under him and led to the situation where we're now seen as a club with 'no history' - it's the period 1978-2007 that's out of character with our history, not 2008 onwards!
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Gary
Was this the same debate show that was hosted by Tony Wilson in 1982?

I think I'm right in saying that Peter Swales and Martin Edwards were arguing that high transfer fees (£million signings) were good for the game and on the other side of the debate was Gordon Taylor who was giving an alternative point of view.

There then followed a Q & A session from the studio audience of which one just happened to be Malcolm Allison who chipped in with his twopennyworth. Allison then went on to explain how City signed Steve Daley. (I can't remember the exact sums of money) Allison contacted John Barnwell (Wolves manager) and enquired about Daley and how much he'd cost, Barnwell said 900k, Allison offered 500k. After some negotiations Barnwell and Alison still couldn't agree a fee with Allison offering around 750k so negotiations broke down. Allison then said that he went to Portugal over the weekend to look a couple of players and left Tony Book in charge of an away game at Spurs. When Allison arrived back to take charge of the team for a League cup game vs Sheffield Wednesday he was told by Swales that fee had been agreed for Daley, when Allison asked about the fee, Swales replied £1.4 million. Allison then claimed that there was a very heated exchange between the two of them.

Tony Wilson then walked over to Swales and said "Peter, would you like to reply to that?" Swales said "No Comment", when Wilson pressed him again, Swales again said "No Comment".

Now I can't remember exact word for word how the debate went, but what I've quoted is pretty accurate and it'll be interesting to see if GJ or any other board members can shed any more light on that Tv programme
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That would more likely have been between 1989 to 1992 mate rather than 1982. The show was called "Upfront". I remember watching it, just not the year.
 
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