Wesley Sneijder

ST Coleridge said:
jjeangi said:
Wrong. Yaya plays in the hole, but he is not the trequartista. That is indisputable. Silva, currently is.

Well, we're getting into semantics here, but 'trequartista' is 'three-quarters of a striker' - a withdrawn forward who typically plays cute passes. Silva is as much a trequartista as we'll have in the current system, but he plays off a wing.

Now - are you going to play Sneijder off a wing? Because we can't afford to put him in the Yaya position, it'll leave our midfield too light and too fractured.

-- Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:39 pm --

Sabster said:
IMO we need someone who can create from wide and someone who can create from deep ("Regista").

We have 1 of the best Trequartista's in the world - why on earth would we bring in a more expensive less talented older trequartista???

Absolutely agree, the team's crying out for an Alonso/Schweinsteiger - someone who can control games and play long passes to the wings when we counter.

We can change formations. We have lots of games & need two teams.
 
I'm sick of this Trequartista nonsense, he's a midfielder. Dictating what type of midfielder he is is like saying "don't ever leave this 6' x 6' box and play in this style only." Let's allow our players a bit of freedom of expression to play the way they need to depending on the match.
 
kennycar said:
I'm sick of this Trequartista nonsense, he's a midfielder. Dictating what type of midfielder he is is like saying "don't ever leave this 6' x 6' box and play in this style only." Let's allow our players a bit of freedom of expression to play the way they need to depending on the match.
This post is nonsense, read it again and think about it.

Now - are you going to play Sneijder off a wing? Because we can't afford to put him in the Yaya position, it'll leave our midfield too light and too fractured.
English ideologies. Barcelona?
 
jjeangi said:
ST Coleridge said:
Now - are you going to play Sneijder off a wing? Because we can't afford to put him in the Yaya position, it'll leave our midfield too light and too fractured.
Bollocks. Yaya as a box to boxer would solve that problems. General consensus is that's what's planned, but no one knows.

Please, tell me all about these successful 442/4411 teams that you've been watching - because I can only think of United, and Rooney's a much busier boy (in terms of pressing and tackling) than Sneijder will ever be.

Is this what you want?:

___DJ___YY
AJ___WS___DS
_____CT...

AJ, Wesley and David would offer next to nothing defensively. It's stupid. We showed in the Liverpool home game just how easily a strong three man midfield can boss a 442 - this is why no-one plays 442 anymore.

-- Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:54 pm --

kennycar said:
I'm sick of this Trequartista nonsense, he's a midfielder. Dictating what type of midfielder he is is like saying "don't ever leave this 6' x 6' box and play in this style only." Let's allow our players a bit of freedom of expression to play the way they need to depending on the match.

Yes, let's play Nigel just behind Tevez. We can have Silva sit in front of the defence and put Barry on the right wing (cutting in and unleashing left-foot thunderbolts).<br /><br />-- Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:56 pm --<br /><br />
jjeangi said:
kennycar said:
I'm sick of this Trequartista nonsense, he's a midfielder. Dictating what type of midfielder he is is like saying "don't ever leave this 6' x 6' box and play in this style only." Let's allow our players a bit of freedom of expression to play the way they need to depending on the match.
This post is nonsense, read it again and think about it.

Now - are you going to play Sneijder off a wing? Because we can't afford to put him in the Yaya position, it'll leave our midfield too light and too fractured.
English ideologies. Barcelona?

Iniesta works very hard though (as do the whole team) - can you see Sneijder doing all that pressing and harrying?
 
kennycar said:
I'm sick of this Trequartista nonsense, he's a midfielder. Dictating what type of midfielder he is is like saying "don't ever leave this 6' x 6' box and play in this style only." Let's allow our players a bit of freedom of expression to play the way they need to depending on the match.

couldnt agree more...

since when has all this stuff started? (awaits the reply from a managerial genius) "its been around for ages DUUUUH everyone as always called it this... my dad is bigger than your dad"

the way i see it is the guy likes to float round in the hole... getting the ball and creating chances.. to me... that has always been called a attacking midfielder, second striker, or a less so recently No 10... but what his role is called isnt the idea of the thread so...

the only place his is really going to play is in behind the tevez or whoever players upfront unless he gets the silva role on the other side.. so silva--- yaya--- sneijder. as we have seen that Mancini likes to get the full backs forward to provide the width. extra pressure on yaya there though... as we all know sneijder isnt a fan of defending... this also leaves us with no pace really what so ever... so infact i have typed all this and come the conclusion that i have noooooo idea what so ever, of what mancinis plans are... providing he gets this man!
 
kennycar said:
I'm sick of this Trequartista nonsense, he's a midfielder. Dictating what type of midfielder he is is like saying "don't ever leave this 6' x 6' box and play in this style only." Let's allow our players a bit of freedom of expression to play the way they need to depending on the match.

No he is a Trequartista - he abides by no positions and goes where he wants (generally in between the lines)
 
I've long been an advocate of actually inverting the midfield, with one holder and two link midfielders . Perfect for ya ya and Milner with our current personnel . Not for the hardest games but for most
 
I really don't think positioning is that strict. Have a look at stats showing where players are for majority of the match and you'll se that a 4,3,3 is exactly the same as a 4,5,1. Where they end up receiving the most passes depends on the player, not the manager.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I've long been an advocate of actually inverting the midfield, with one holder and two link midfielders . Perfect for ya ya and Milner with our current personnel . Not for the hardest games but for most

That would be fine too. The main requirement of our three midfielders (and those of any other successful team, especially in England) is that there can be no defensive passengers - that goes for Silva, Sneijder, whoever.

As much as you might argue that Johnson-Sneijder-Silva (or Sanchez-Silva-Mata, or whatever) would be great, it's just never going to happen.
 
I'll give you the DeJong one though, I know he's not an Attacking Midfielder, but it doesn't mean he can't run into space if it opens up.
 

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