West Ham - Post match thread

[Rolee]

The idea that last night's team would be found out by better opposition and that Pep won't pick it against a top six team seems to me to misunderstand Pep and to ignore experience. The claim is based on the lineup being too 'attacking '. Yet Pep picked almost exactly this team against Spurs, dominated the game and it wasn't a lack of emphasis on defence, but rather a basic failure to mark properly, which resulted in a draw rather than a win. Pep's answer to teams which attack is to attack them more! But something else has been ignored from last night 's display amid the eulogies of our front three. That threesome is young, talented, exciting...and also unbelievably energetic and hard working. I came across the match stats today and they give scientific support to what I and everyone else thought they actually saw last night. Sané was clocked as the fastest player on the pitch, Jesus was second fastest and Sterling third. Sané made 73 high intensity runs - more than any other player apart from Jesus, who also made 73! Sané made more tackles AND interceptions than any other player! There is nothing here to suggest that that lineup is lacking solidity and everything, in fact, to suggest it is EXACTLY the lineup Pep would send out against top class opposition.

Fascinated by them stats, where did you see them mate?

 

[waterfootblues]

tell me I m wrong but opta think Jesus is 1st City player to both score and assist on debut. I thinks its wrong as Kun scored and assisted for silva v. swansea. Was there that Monday night.

Me too. It wasn't Kun's full debut, he came on as a sub.

 

[NPBlue]

If you were the person in block 118 around row 9 who kept farting throughout the game, would you please stick a cork up your arse or go for some colonic irrigation.

Every two minutes your guts expanded and let off enough stale air to fill a bloody airship.

It's also the first away game I've gone to with loads of tourists present, and they don't do anything, do they?

I understand now where some of you are coming from.

In terms of atmosphere, the worst away day I've been to, which was a shock to the system, but what a performance by the team.

If we can keep playing like that it bodes well for the future, and hopefully, Pep keeps Willy in goal.

It must give the players a huge boost in confidence knowing they have a proper goalkeeper standing between the posts.

 

[YaYa's Left Peg]

The idea that last night's team would be found out by better opposition and that Pep won't pick it against a top six team seems to me to misunderstand Pep and to ignore experience. The claim is based on the lineup being too 'attacking '. Yet Pep picked almost exactly this team against Spurs, dominated the game and it wasn't a lack of emphasis on defence, but rather a basic failure to mark properly, which resulted in a draw rather than a win. Pep's answer to teams which attack is to attack them more! But something else has been ignored from last night 's display amid the eulogies of our front three. That threesome is young, talented, exciting...and also unbelievably energetic and hard working. I came across the match stats today and they give scientific support to what I and everyone else thought they actually saw last night. Sané was clocked as the fastest player on the pitch, Jesus was second fastest and Sterling third. Sané made 73 high intensity runs - more than any other player apart from Jesus, who also made 73! Sané made more tackles AND interceptions than any other player! There is nothing here to suggest that that lineup is lacking solidity and everything, in fact, to suggest it is EXACTLY the lineup Pep would send out against top class opposition.

Spot on. It just seems to emphasise even more how little the pundits and media/press understand what Pep is doing and aiming to do. So instead what we get is naive and completely illogical reactions and reasoning, which belies the evidence as presented.

For Nevin, one of the more intelligent pundits, to come out with nonsense like he did, suggests that they will never get it, and therefore will continue to push the "can't do it in England" mantra. Pity, because if only they opened their eyes, they would be so excited at the potential lasting impact that Guardiola could have on the English game as a whole.

 

[BlueAnorak]

They're playing with semantics, he's the first to do that having started, Aguero came on as a sub.

Indeed it is. His full debut was against Palace in the Cup and he didn't score though he did assist and change our attacking play dramatically. West Ham was his full League debut.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

Fascinated by them stats, where did you see them mate?

Unfortunately I can't remember! I noted the ones which I thought most interesting from a mass of other stats but didn't note the source. They seemed to confirm what I'd seen- the three were everywhere, Silva and KdB could go deep,stay high, link with YaYa or whatever was necessary because they always had an out ball. This could well be why the hammers got nowhere near City. It was the real proof of Pep's belief that defence concerns more than the back four- WHU were never a threat aerially because they were never able to get a cross in.

 

[blueonblue]

Hoddle was a massive talent that didn't quite reproduce his best form for England.

Sorry but I can not let that one go, he was an above average but limited player that got bummed up like so many of that era into the "World class" bracket the media choose to bestow on players from certain clubs, the best that can be said for him was he had a good shot.

 

[Centurions]

Unfortunately I can't remember! I noted the ones which I thought most interesting from a mass of other stats but didn't note the source. They seemed to confirm what I'd seen- the three were everywhere, Silva and KdB could go deep,stay high, link with YaYa or whatever was necessary because they always had an out ball. This could well be why the hammers got nowhere near City. It was the real proof of Pep's belief that defence concerns more than the back four- WHU were never a threat aerially because they were never able to get a cross in.

Those stats were from Sky, http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-sterling-and-leroy-sane-are-man-citys-future

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Sorry but I can not let that one go, he was an above average but limited player that got bummed up like so many of that era into the "World class" bracket the media choose to bestow on players from certain clubs, the best that can be said for him was he had a good shot.

Disagree. What Hoddle lacked was the ability to control a game for England in the way Platini did for France. Hoddle had at least the same passing range as Platini, could carry the ball and had a precision shot. Played for England for nine years but only capped fifty-odd times. He never tracked back, and that's why he struggled to hold down a spot in Robson's England. Gazza on the other hand had a superb passing range, rarely messed up chances and could dictate games but often tracked back too much in the early days giving free kicks away. We also have to admit that Bryan Robson was world class - aggressive, goalscorer, decent pass and leader. Limited ability manager though.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

Fascinated by them stats, where did you see them mate?

So play sane , aguero,Jesus for this one.