West Ham United (A) | Post-Match Thread

[hero_blue]

Well both Villa and Wolves have nothing to play for really, okay Gerrard will try and help his former team, but don’t really think their players gonna really give a fuck. Pretty much on the beach. Last time we draw against villa was in 2015 and before that lost in 2013. So we have a good record, fans will be up for it. Lets win this blues!

 

[jimharri]

Thankfully we have a slightly better team now. :)

Are you sure?

 

[hero_blue]

Do we bench grealish and put in foden or do we play both? Who then is on the bench

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Spot on those penalties are the worst ever, right height and not enough power or close to the corner. Also you could see by his run up where he was putting it. Oh for a Ya Ya or Balotelli for penalties. God forbid we need one to win; n the last minute on Sunday as we all know the outcome if that's the case.

Slight hyperbole. I guess the worst possible penalty is one you score an own goal from.

 

[JTFactsPlz]

Desire and intensity isn't enough, ultimately he posed absolutely zero threat to the West Ham goal today other than drawing some kicks.

Jesus didn't start a league match from NYD to 10th April. How much longer is that streak going to be when we have Haaland, and Alvarez?

Him staying wouldn't benefit anyone.

Jesus was injured for a big chunk of that time period you mention, which is why he didn't start for so long. Stating the time period without mentioning the injury, implying he didn't start during that whole time because of poor form, is disingenuous and indicates an agenda which undermines your whole point.

Most people seem to be talking about Haaland as if he'll play every single game. He won't. With the amount of matches City play, there'll be the usual need to rotate him so that he isn't overplayed, and given his injury record, it seems likely he'll have at least one or two breaks for injury next season at City as well. Alvarez will have to go through the usual adjustment period for new City attacking players, so how his form will be during his first season is uncertain. (Haaland will have an adjustment period as well, of course, but not sure how much Pep will have the team adjust to him rather than vice versa, so it remains to be seen what the trajectory of Haaland's adjustment period will be).

Point is, there will likely still be plenty of need for Jesus next season. That said, he may wish to become the first name on the team sheet rather than one of a number of choices for Pep to choose from, so may wish to go elsewhere, in which case, best of luck to him. City will certainly be a poorer squad without him in it, though.

 

[DeBlueLou]

Tell you what, we will regret if we let Jesus go this summer ahead of Sterling.

His desire and intensity is a huge asset to us.

Jesus has evidently been showing more heart and quality than both Sterling and Mahrez when it mattered this season... I'd also try and keep him over the latter two. But he seems to be set on leaving. Foden - Jesus - Sterling for the final game in my bood.

 

[inbetween]

Well both Villa and Wolves have nothing to play for really, okay Gerrard will try and help his former team, but don’t really think their players gonna really give a fuck. Pretty much on the beach. Last time we draw against villa was in 2015 and before that lost in 2013. So we have a good record, fans will be up for it. Lets win this blues!

It's hard to forget a few years ago we had to win away at Brighton in the last game and we went 1-0 down first in that as well. That was a much bigger ask than this one.

The only worry I have is if they saw how West Ham defended and try to setup the same way. Gerrard doesn't have that defensive mindset in him though so we should get chances but we just need to make sure we score more than they do..

Liverpool still have to win both of their games too and they need to be very careful now as any big injury could cost them the Champions League. They've already possibly lost Salah and Van Dyk might not play this week. They'll try and do the least possible against Southampton, they only need to draw and that's it more or less done and dusted.

 

[DeBlueLou]

Well both Villa and Wolves have nothing to play for really, okay Gerrard will try and help his former team, but don’t really think their players gonna really give a fuck. Pretty much on the beach. Last time we draw against villa was in 2015 and before that lost in 2013. So we have a good record, fans will be up for it. Lets win this blues!

I don't know man... Gerrard will set his team up for an upset to compensate for his slip. Probably start two ex LiVARpool players who will be hungry and the rest of them + fans will be hungry to screw Grealish over. They'll probably try to and get him as far away from a title as possible.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

The players and the team set the expectations - me and you as a fan need to hold them accountable for that. Yeah u get a "off" game, yesterday was not an off game - we shot ourselves in the foot. All in all changed need to be made. Likewise when attackers play poor - someone else comes in, that should be the standard for defenders - next game we need changes in the lineup.

But you aren’t. You’re moaning about them anonymously on a forum.

 

[domalino]

Jesus was injured for a big chunk of that time period you mention, which is why he didn't start for so long. Stating the time period without mentioning the injury, implying he didn't start during that whole time because of poor form, is disingenuous and indicates an agenda which undermines your whole point.

Most people seem to be talking about Haaland as if he'll play every single game. He won't. With the amount of matches City play, there'll be the usual need to rotate him so that he isn't overplayed, and given his injury record, it seems likely he'll have at least one or two breaks for injury next season at City as well. Alvarez will have to go through the usual adjustment period for new City attacking players, so how his form will be during his first season is uncertain. (Haaland will have an adjustment period as well, of course, but not sure how much Pep will have the team adjust to him rather than vice versa, so it remains to be seen what the trajectory of Haaland's adjustment period will be).

Point is, there will likely still be plenty of need for Jesus next season. That said, he may wish to become the first name on the team sheet rather than one of a number of choices for Pep to choose from, so may wish to go elsewhere, in which case, best of luck to him. City will certainly be a poorer squad without him in it, though.

1) Jesus was not injured at all during that period.

2) Haaland's injury problems are to do with Marco Rose, the Dortmund coach, who has received loads of criticism for his training methods giving his players muscle injuries. Haaland had no muscle injuries before this.

3) Lewandowski started 91 out of 100 possible matches for Guardiola at Bayern. If Haaland plays well, he will play every match he's fit for.

4) Alvarez.