Well both Villa and Wolves have nothing to play for really, okay Gerrard will try and help his former team, but don’t really think their players gonna really give a fuck. Pretty much on the beach. Last time we draw against villa was in 2015 and before that lost in 2013. So we have a good record, fans will be up for it. Lets win this blues!
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Slight hyperbole. I guess the worst possible penalty is one you score an own goal from.
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Jesus was injured for a big chunk of that time period you mention, which is why he didn't start for so long. Stating the time period without mentioning the injury, implying he didn't start during that whole time because of poor form, is disingenuous and indicates an agenda which undermines your whole point.
Most people seem to be talking about Haaland as if he'll play every single game. He won't. With the amount of matches City play, there'll be the usual need to rotate him so that he isn't overplayed, and given his injury record, it seems likely he'll have at least one or two breaks for injury next season at City as well. Alvarez will have to go through the usual adjustment period for new City attacking players, so how his form will be during his first season is uncertain. (Haaland will have an adjustment period as well, of course, but not sure how much Pep will have the team adjust to him rather than vice versa, so it remains to be seen what the trajectory of Haaland's adjustment period will be).
Point is, there will likely still be plenty of need for Jesus next season. That said, he may wish to become the first name on the team sheet rather than one of a number of choices for Pep to choose from, so may wish to go elsewhere, in which case, best of luck to him. City will certainly be a poorer squad without him in it, though.
Jesus has evidently been showing more heart and quality than both Sterling and Mahrez when it mattered this season... I'd also try and keep him over the latter two. But he seems to be set on leaving. Foden - Jesus - Sterling for the final game in my bood.
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It's hard to forget a few years ago we had to win away at Brighton in the last game and we went 1-0 down first in that as well. That was a much bigger ask than this one.
The only worry I have is if they saw how West Ham defended and try to setup the same way. Gerrard doesn't have that defensive mindset in him though so we should get chances but we just need to make sure we score more than they do..
Liverpool still have to win both of their games too and they need to be very careful now as any big injury could cost them the Champions League. They've already possibly lost Salah and Van Dyk might not play this week. They'll try and do the least possible against Southampton, they only need to draw and that's it more or less done and dusted.
I don't know man... Gerrard will set his team up for an upset to compensate for his slip. Probably start two ex LiVARpool players who will be hungry and the rest of them + fans will be hungry to screw Grealish over. They'll probably try to and get him as far away from a title as possible.
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But you aren’t. You’re moaning about them anonymously on a forum.
1) Jesus was not injured at all during that period.
2) Haaland's injury problems are to do with Marco Rose, the Dortmund coach, who has received loads of criticism for his training methods giving his players muscle injuries. Haaland had no muscle injuries before this.
3) Lewandowski started 91 out of 100 possible matches for Guardiola at Bayern. If Haaland plays well, he will play every match he's fit for.
4) Alvarez.
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They won’t be on the beach.
Before the Brighton match 5Live had on an ex Palace player who played in their 3-3 draw with Liverpool. He spoke about how players love these sort of matches. Their players didn’t care whether City or Liverpool won the title, they just wanted to be instrumental in who won it. And they were under no pressure to get a result. It seems that professional footballers are natural party poopers.
They’ll be playing in front of a huge television audience. They’ll relish it.
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He was. He returned from the January international break with an injury. As you're apparently not properly informed on this, I'm attaching this City Xtra article dated Feb 18 2022. Couple of quotes:
"Manchester City forward Gabriel Jesus is expected to return to training next week after having missed the past few games with injury, according to a new report."
"Gabriel Jesus has missed his side's last four games after coming off the bench in their 1-1 draw with Southampton prior to the recent winter break. Having made a bright start to the campaign, a muscle injury stopped the in-form Brazilian in his tracks..."
I believe the period prior to Feb 18 falls significantly inside the period of "NYD to 10th April" you mentioned. Pep then reintroduced him after injury gradually, as he tends to do with all players where possible.
He was only out of the squad for 10 days, so he can't have been injured for "a significant chunk" of that time. For the rest of the time Pep wasn't picking him he was on the bench or getting 5 minute cameos at the end of games.
Not starting a league match for 3 months...real gradual return from injury that one.
I know people like him, I like him, but he doesn't want to play striker, and is 3rd choice RW at best, before Haaland and Alvarez come in which means whoever has been playing false 9 is going to move elsewhere on the pitch. He's nto going to play, it's time for him to go.
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Grealish on the Mahrez penalty miss:
I'm not looking to dig Mahrez out for the miss, but I rewatched it on MOTD and it's very noticeable that he LOOKS right at the spot where he's intending to shoot just before he kicks the ball (the TV picture was taken from behind the goal). If the TV audience could see it on the replay, the keeper could definitely see it before the pen was taken. So the save wasn't quite as lucky as it might have first appeared. The nerves got to Mahrez and that's why he forgot not to look. Understandable in the circumstances, but annoying none the less.
I'm not looking to dig Mahrez out for the miss, but I rewatched it on MOTD and it's very noticeable that he LOOKS right at the spot where he's intending to shoot just before he kicks the ball (the TV picture was taken from behind the goal). If the TV audience could see it on the replay, the keeper could definitely see it before the pen was taken. So the save wasn't quite as lucky as it might have first appeared. The nerves got to Mahrez and that's why he forgot not to look. Understandable in the circumstances, but annoying none the less.
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Some 'interesting' takes on this game and the game next week. So was that one point won or two points dropped? Yes we could have won it with the penalty and given the timing we should have won it, but my life .....we could so easily have lost it. Before we equalised WH could have been 3-1 up if Antonio (Edit:....it was Bowen, greedy git!) had pulled it back from the byline to a WH player in our box instead of shooting into the side netting. Then there was the blocked shot which spun past our post, Antonio again when he missed his chip.....so it's a point gained for me. Title is still in our hands. A loss would have been a disaster.
Now...next week. I see 'flapping' season has come round again. Cibaman is correct, Villa won't be on the beach. Forget the Gerard aspect, they'll want to be party poopers in their own right. Fine. One thing we have to do is have absolute trust in these players. They're not stupid. They have the skill, drive and most importantly, the intelligence, to beat whatever is put in front of them. Leave it in their hands.
Now...next week. I see 'flapping' season has come round again. Cibaman is correct, Villa won't be on the beach. Forget the Gerard aspect, they'll want to be party poopers in their own right. Fine. One thing we have to do is have absolute trust in these players. They're not stupid. They have the skill, drive and most importantly, the intelligence, to beat whatever is put in front of them. Leave it in their hands.
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Fine, we get it. You don't rate Jesus. I've proven you wrong in your assertion re the lack of injury but rather than take the L you've doubled down on your agenda (again including inaccurate information, but I can't be bothered to keep arguing back and forth). I'll just do us both a favour and stick you on ignore. Be well.
I like Jesus too, and I get the sentiment in here right now. Ultimately though, I think he's one we'll all very quickly forget about when we're watching Alvarez and Haaland bag a shit tonne of goals. I'm sure he'll do elsewhere but something would have to go catastrophically wrong for any of us to think 'we made a mistake'.
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For every Crystanbul there are 20 games where opposition hasn’t bothered turning up on the last game of the season against the Champions elect.
“On paper” that City line up should have been comfortable mid table
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A good portion of the Villa fanbase will definitely be hungry for Grealish to be screwed over by City not winning the league, but there's a difference between that toxic part of the fanbase and the team itself. Grealish still has a number of close friends in that team. Not saying for a minute that those players will be looking to do City any favours but they won't be out for personal revenge against Jack either. I expect Villa to turn up professionally against City like they did against Liverpool recently, but it's an eminently winnable match for City.