West Ham Vs City Pre Match Discussion Thread

[Alex B]

Hart
Richards, Nastasic Demichellis, Clichy
Yaya, Fernandinhio
Silva, Jovetic
Negredo, Aguero

 

[Manchester33]

We have big games every 3-4 days for the foreseeable

The Premiership And the Champions League are our priorities, and we can't do well in both unless we rotate

Short-sighted to play Aguero every 3-4 days. Do that and he'd be in trouble before you know it. I'm not sure he's fully recovered from last season's knee injuries so it may well be that City will be very reluctant to play him three times in a week.

This period, and others that follow, are why we assembled our forward line.

We can, there is no reason why he shouldn't play Aguero on Saturday, I don't think he played in the international break either? Could be wrong on that though. He's gotta just start his strongest team for every game and worry about injuries or fatigue when they happen. If Aguero or any other of our better players get injured we should still have enough about ourselves to get a result in Moscow next week. The one game out of the 4 I would consider resting players for is obvious Newcastle.

 

[waspish]

I was thinking we needed to win this game but if we get a draw it would be " just ok" still early days only 8 games played after this weekend..

 

[Rocko_1]

______________Hart_____________

Zaba____Lescott___Nasty___Clichy

_____Demichelis__Fernandinho________

__Nasri______ Yaya________Silva___

____________Negredo__________

FI - I like your thinking here. I also would like to see this lineup against West Ham. But if Pelligrini is faint of heart, and there's no reason to believe that he is a risk-taker or fairly aggressive in making quick adjustments when the game is calling for it, then I would like to see Demichelis in Lescott's place, and Milner as a defensive mid-fielder next to Fernandinho. Take Nasri off at 65-70 minutes and bring in Navas to extend the tired West Ham defense, OR replace Silva with Jovetic at the same minute mark if we need more shots on goal.

 

[Anonymous]

At West Ham on Saturday we start a run of 4 straight away games. What are we going to do differently to get a better result than at Cardiff & Villa? Saturday is a "must win game" not just for our league position, but also as a bridge towards a winning trip to Moscow the following week. History tells us that we don't always do well after international breaks (injuries & fatigue etc), but let's hope we can change that this week-end. Our form so far this season shows that we are playing like a group of individuals still getting to know each-other but we don't play well as a team very often.

So come on Pelle; get these guys motivated and keep the defense tight. So come on guys; it's time to get up off your fat wallets and get these talents to work and earn your fat pay-cheques and show everyone how you played against United. We live in hope.
Key questions before this game:

Which City team will show up on Saturday? Will it be the attacking confident gladiators that took United to the cleaners? Or will it be the stumble-bums who showed up and let in 3 against Bayern Munich? (& 3 at Villa & 3 at Cardiff)? We live in hope.

Another key will be Toure; if he plays well then City usually play well and get a good result, but if he struggles and is ineffective then City will struggle and we will be up against it again. So which Yaya Toure will show up on Saturday? The big power-house we see occasionally or the big galoof we all see too often? I have an open mind on Yaya; I praise him when he plays well (which is not often enough), and I criticize him when he struggles (which is too frequently).

 

[SrilankanBlue]

______________Hart_____________

Zaba____Lescott___Nasty___Clichy

_____Demichelis__Fernandinho________

__Nasri______ Yaya________Silva___

____________Negredo__________

I like this lineup a lot! Demichelis started his career at DM and has the necessary defensive and ball skills (check his OS interview to see his through ball in the EDS game to setup the first goal) to play there while also giving us plenty of aerial presence in the box against set pieces. only concern is whether he is physically upto it for the game against WH which i think he isnt.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Not to sure how we'll line up. I'm hoping for this




______________ Jussi _____________

Demel ____ Collins ___ Reid ___Rat

_____Diame __Noble________

Ravel ______ Nolan________ Jarvis ___

____________C.Cole __________

 

[Jumanji]

______________Hart_____________

Zaba____Lescott___Nasty___Clichy

_____Demichelis__Fernandinho________

__Nasri______ Yaya________Silva___

____________Negredo__________

I like this lineup a lot! Demichelis started his career at DM and has the necessary defensive and ball skills (check his OS interview to see his through ball in the EDS game to setup the first goal) to play there while also giving us plenty of aerial presence in the box against set pieces. only concern is whether he is physically upto it for the game against WH which i think he isnt.

TBH, I'd much, much rather have a slow player at CB than a slow DM.

 

[davelyncooper]

We have big games every 3-4 days for the foreseeable

The Premiership And the Champions League are our priorities, and we can't do well in both unless we rotate

Short-sighted to play Aguero every 3-4 days. Do that and he'd be in trouble before you know it. I'm not sure he's fully recovered from last season's knee injuries so it may well be that City will be very reluctant to play him three times in a week.

This period, and others that follow, are why we assembled our forward line.

please explain to me why a professional footballer cannot be expected to be fit enough to play two/three games a week. Just cut back on the training regime and give the best players the time to play competitive matches together.

 

[Marvin]

We have big games every 3-4 days for the foreseeable

The Premiership And the Champions League are our priorities, and we can't do well in both unless we rotate

Short-sighted to play Aguero every 3-4 days. Do that and he'd be in trouble before you know it. I'm not sure he's fully recovered from last season's knee injuries so it may well be that City will be very reluctant to play him three times in a week.

This period, and others that follow, are why we assembled our forward line.

please explain to me why a professional footballer cannot be expected to be fit enough to play two/three games a week. Just cut back on the training regime and give the best players the time to play competitive matches together.

If it was a one of period of 3 games in 8 days it might be OK, but it's not. It goes on for a month

There are several issues here. There could be some players recovering from joint injuries who just can not play so many games back to back.

Also how many times do you see a team play a big match away in Europe, and then struggle in their next Premiership game (particularly if it's away in the Premiership). Ferguson used to go mad if he found out that Utd had Premiership away fixtures after Champions League Match-Days. There are possibly mental as well as physical reasons here

Pro athletes get more rest than most as they don't have to juggle jobs, but there's still a limit on the body's ability to recover from intense exercise.

If you exercise when you are not fully recovered, you will very quickly pick up injuries. The muscles themselves are innervated by nerve fibres, and muscles always act together in a system across a joint. When the body is tired, the nerves don't fire properly and the muscles don't contract together and you can get tears etc.

More likely the player will just not play at his best. Football is so competitive now, that you have to be close to 100%. If you have 6 or 7 players operating at slightly below their maximum you are going to struggle.

Anyone who trains will be aware of heavy limbs and soreness after exercise which persists for 3 days or so

Listen to athletes who compete in meets. They often complain that they were slightly sub-par because they had not got the travel out of their system. Look at the difficulty for distance athletes like Mo farah in winning 5km and 10km races at a Championship, and footballers run over 5km a game, and many of them will be sprinting at the maximum for short periods in games.