What has the UK become?

[bluethrunthru]

What station was that? Certainly not 5Live.

LBC - callers in to Shelagh and Tom Swarbrick

 

[Cheesy]

A nation of people that, despite going through a major cost of living crisis, raises £30 million in one day for the people of Turkey & Syria.

We have our issues but I fucking detest people putting their own country down at every opportunity. Almost invariably, they also do fuck all about the supposedly awful state of the nation and just piss and moan about things.

 

[blueinsa]

A nation of people that, despite going through a major cost of living crisis, raises £30 million in one day for the people of Turkey & Syria.

We have our issues but I fucking detest people putting their own country down at every opportunity. Almost invariably, they also do fuck all about the supposedly awful state of the nation and just piss and moan about things.

It’s a pastime for a tiny minority on here I’m afraid.

Fucking weirdo’s.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

So today on radio phone ins I have heard people advocating that

a/ we need to stop supporting Ukraine as we can't afford to

b/ why should we help earthquake victims in Turkey and especially Syria - we can't afford to

There are so many shit stains in the gusset of the UK's underpants right now

Fucking hell are you moaning about this country again?

For every idiot who thinks either a/ or b/ there are probably hundreds of thousands who think the opposite.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Interesting graph released recently showing the trend in antisemitic incidents since 2008. Ignoring the spikes which relate to reactions to Israel/Palestine flare ups, there was a noticeable jump from well under 100 incidents per month prior to 2016 to well over 100 incidents per month from 2016 onwards. Wonder what could have happened in 2016 to embolden racists and antisemites to demonstrate their hatred?

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It’s a fair assumption that anti-minority incidents are up across the board as well, whether it’s religious or nationality related.

This is quite interesting.

Look at the rises in Facebook and Twitter member numbers over a similar period:




(I know they’re both worldwide but the national trend will be the same)

I’d say - much more than it being this country that’s the problem, OP - I’d say it’s the growth of online platforms where stupid views are posted, liked and reposted as normal thinking is the drive behind the growth in stupid views.

These views are always there, always have been, they’re just seen more because of social media and said more because of the increase in things being seen online.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

A nation of people that, despite going through a major cost of living crisis, raises £30 million in one day for the people of Turkey & Syria.

We have our issues but I fucking detest people putting their own country down at every opportunity. Almost invariably, they also do fuck all about the supposedly awful state of the nation and just piss and moan about things.

What about someone like me, an inveterate optimist who always thought this country, for all its faults, was pretty cool and I wouldn’t have considered living anywhere else? A decade or so go, things worked, the country functioned and was generally at ease with itself.

You think things work now? You think our railways, courts or hospitals are functioning like they did a decade ago? You think the country is generally united?

Maybe it’s me. Maybe it’s just me getting older, because old people tend to moan about things not being as good as they were, and I’m always trying to fight against that, because it doesnt sit comfortably with me, but every time I try and apply objective thought to the situation I come to the same conclusion, namely that things have greatly declined in this country over the last decade, and we are much more divided on a number of fundamental issues.

Maybe some of it is replicated in other western countries due to a combination of Covid and the relative decline of western hegemony. I certainly think, whatver the rights and wrongs of the issue at hand, the disruption of Brexit won’t have helped. Also, social media will have played a part in the disunity, as it will in other countries.

Maybe you think otherwise, and things are fine (or at least as they were) in your experience, and that opinion is as valid as any, but in my experience, coming as it does from someone who tends to think positively and have an optimistic disposition, is that this country has been discernibly declining for the last decade.

 

[west didsblue]

This is quite interesting.

Look at the rises in Facebook and Twitter member numbers over a similar period:

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(I know they’re both worldwide but the national trend will be the same)

I’d say - much more than it being this country that’s the problem, OP - I’d say it’s the growth of online platforms where stupid views are posted, liked and reposted as normal thinking is the drive behind the growth in stupid views.

These views are always there, always have been, they’re just seen more because of social media and said more because of the increase in things being seen online.

Yes, the widespread dissemination and normalisation of extreme views thanks to social media is certainly a scourge.

 

[bluethrunthru]

wtf is going on

Brianna Ghey: Boy and girl arrested over Warrington park killing

The two 15-year-olds are being held on suspicion of murdering the 16-year-old girl in Warrington.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Rascal]

What about someone like me, an inveterate optimist who always thought this country, for all its faults, was pretty cool and I wouldn’t have considered living anywhere else? A decade or so go, things worked, the country functioned and was generally at ease with itself.

You think things work now? You think our railways, courts or hospitals are functioning like they did a decade ago? You think the country is generally united?

Maybe it’s me. Maybe it’s just me getting older, because old people tend to moan about things not being as good as they were, and I’m always trying to fight against that, because it doesnt sit comfortably with me, but every time I try and apply objective thought to the situation I come to the same conclusion, namely that things have greatly declined in this country over the last decade, and we are much more divided on a number of fundamental issues.

Maybe some of it is replicated in other western countries due to a combination of Covid and the relative decline of western hegemony. I certainly think, whatver the rights and wrongs of the issue at hand, the disruption of Brexit won’t have helped. Also, social media will have played a part in the disunity, as it will in other countries.

Maybe you think otherwise, and things are fine (or at least as they were) in your experience, and that opinion is as valid as any, but in my experience, coming as it does from someone who tends to think positively and have an optimistic disposition, is that this country has been discernibly declining for the last decade.

Nice post, Fintan O'Toole is his book "Heroic Failure" describes a Britain looking for an identity. A country no longer sure of its standing in the world, a once great power somewhat diminished. The Empire has long gone, influence is on the wain and as you put it the "decline of western hegemony" has played a role. I think that all plays a role in how people think about our country, we are now whether we like it or not, a small island off the coast of Europe with a haughty expression of illusionary grandeur.

On the whole though we remain a good country, with a long and proud history. We have contributed much to the development of mankind, our people are mostly fair minded, warm and decent. We do though like a good moan and whinge and whilst I do believe our country could be much much better than what it is, it is a still a great place to live.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Nice post, Fintan O'Toole is his book "Heroic Failure" describes a Britain looking for an identity. A country no longer sure of its standing in the world, a once great power somewhat diminished. The Empire has long gone, influence is on the wain and as you put it the "decline of western hegemony" has played a role. I think that all plays a role in how people think about our country, we are now whether we like it or not, a small island off the coast of Europe with a haughty expression of illusionary grandeur.

On the whole though we remain a good country, with a long and proud history. We have contributed much to the development of mankind, our people are mostly fair minded, warm and decent. We do though like a good moan and whinge and whilst I do believe our country could be much much better than what it is, it is a still a great place to live.

I think in many ways it is still a great country to live, just not as good as it was a decade ago.