hilts
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Worth the possible death of your child? Really? Okay go on pick one, any one.
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What has the UK become?
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Worth the possible death of your child? Really? Okay go on pick one, any one.
Alan Harper's Tash
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As I already said, we are not in their position. They believe it to be their best option.Worth the possible death of your child? Really? Okay go on pick one, any one.
hilts
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As I already said, we are not in their position. They believe it to be their best option.
So we both can't think of one, we got there eventually. Anyhow this Rwanda nonsense will be gone soon enough and it's Labour's turn to solve the unsolvable.
Good luck with that.
BobKowalski
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Germany is effectively landlocked and given the porous borders in Europe they basically didn't have much choice. Merkel essentially said that they will accept everyone and the result is Germany swelled its population by millions over just a few years. Whether that decision was a good or bad thing for Germany is something for Germans to decide.
By the way, if you put a border post in France then doesn't that create a huge incentive for traffickers to sell more dangerous trips across the Mediterranean to bring people to France so that they can claim asylum here? 10x more people have died crossing the Mediterranean versus the Channel.
Germany is the destination of choice and it suits their labour needs. I don‘t see why being landlocked makes a difference?
They are making the journey anyway. Eliminating one leg of peril is simply the humane thing to do, as opposed to watching bodies wash up on our beaches. It’s not hard to treat people with dignity. The fact that we don’t (not that we are alone in this) says more about us then it does about them.
Bluemanc100
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Do these “deserving cases” even apply to stay in France.. I doubt it very much.. The majority of people in boats have travelled through more than one safe haven before landing on our shores…Then that can only mean that we can't be arsed putting resources into it and once here it's easier to just let them stay or France are sending away shit loads of deserving cases.
Yet again I'm sure our EU/asylum loving posters would be all over that.
That has to be our fault as a country for making things far too easy for anybody who does arrive..
Alan Harper's Tash
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They believe that it’s best for their family. That is their reasoning. Some can’t fathom that decision, some can.So we both can't think of one, we got there eventually. Anyhow this Rwanda nonsense will be gone soon enough and it's Labour's turn to solve the unsolvable.
Good luck with that.
BobKowalski
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Do these “deserving cases” even apply to stay in France.. I doubt it very much.. The majority of people in boats have travelled through more than one safe haven before landing on our shores…
That has to be our fault as a country for making things far too easy for anybody who does arrive..
We don’t make it easy, we make it extremely difficult. For starters we make them cross the channel in dinghies.
BobKowalski
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So we both can't think of one, we got there eventually. Anyhow this Rwanda nonsense will be gone soon enough and it's Labour's turn to solve the unsolvable.
Good luck with that.
It isn’t unsolvable. You provide safe passage, process the claims in a timely manner and return those that fail back to France via a deal with France/EU as part of an overall asylum policy.
The Govt chooses not to solve the issue. Whether Labour grasp the nettle on this remains to be seen.
hilts
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Do these “deserving cases” even apply to stay in France.. I doubt it very much.. The majority of people in boats have travelled through more than one safe haven before landing on our shores…
That has to be our fault as a country for making things far too easy for anybody who does arrive..
We have had a long standing issue with saving money by doing fuck all. We don't do infrastructure planning or investment.This applys to all sorts of shit. This is all for show. This govt is very happy for high immigration(and asylum seekers) as long as the Great British public are unaware of it.
We are all dispoable items of production. They used to blame the EU now they need another fall guy. Some of us predicted this. If the UK and France could make these people dissappear they would do.
hilts
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It isn’t unsolvable. You provide safe passage, process the claims in a timely manner and return those that fail back to France via a deal with France/EU as part of an overall asylum policy.
The Govt chooses not to solve the issue. Whether Labour grasp the nettle on this remains to be seen.
Are the old we will just negotiate a deal with France claptrap. Pmsl. The naivity is slightly worrying.