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Holding 2 doughnuts becomes significantly more difficult
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What has the UK become?
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Holding 2 doughnuts becomes significantly more difficult
Alan Harper's Tash
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Conversely, it seems the deterrent isn’t enough for the vocal social media “stop the boats” crowd.We have no idea how many would come here if the option was easier than risking your own and your families life.
So to say its not a deterrent is just a biased guess on your part
Ever since 2016, government policies have been implemented to deconstruct rather than construct, generally in 3 word slogans.
This one is no different and they don’t particularly want a solution as it gives them something to shout about.
hilts
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Conversely, it seems the deterrent isn’t enough for the vocal social media “stop the boats” crowd.
Ever since 2016, government policies have been implemented to deconstruct rather than construct, generally in 3 word slogans.
This one is no different and they don’t particularly want a solution as it gives them something to shout about.
I don't speak for the vocal social media whoever they are and I have no wish to. This is a problem with no obvious current answer. I think the law on asylum seekers should be revisited by the applicable nations. Times change.
Anyhow some are right that possible death is a deterrent. I have no problem answering that one. But it is unarguable that risking your child's life to come to the bloody UK when already in a safe country is frankly fucking mad and those parents are responsible for the death of their child.
The fact lots do anyhow is not an excuse. As always on this subject some seem to want an open door policy into this country but don't have the bollocks to say so.
No one has yet to come up with a solution, maybe there isn't one.
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Alan Harper's Tash
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Maybe so, but whilst some can’t comprehend why some choose to travel over by dinghy, others accept that they are in that position where they believe it’s the best thing for them and their family.I don't speak for the vocal social media whoever they are and I have no wish to. This is a problem with no obvious current answer. I think the law on asylum seekers should be revisited by the applicable nations. Times change.
Anyhow some are right that possible death is a deterrent. I have no problem answering that one. But it is unarguable that risking your child's life to come to the bloody UK when already in a safe country is frankly fucking mad and those parents are responsible for the death of their child.
Ths fact lots do anyhow is not an excuse. As always on this subject some seem to want an open door policy into this country but don't have the bollocks say so.
No one has yet to come up with s solution, maybe there isn't one.
It’s pretty hard to put ourselves in their position of total destitution and fear. We probably can’t process that logic gate until we’re living it.
hilts
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Maybe so, but whilst some can’t comprehend why some choose to travel over by dinghy, others accept that they are in that position where they believe it’s the best thing for them and their family.
It’s pretty hard to put ourselves in their position of total destitution and fear. We probably can’t process that logic gate until we’re living it.
There in France, what fear and destitution do they have, unless the French are purposely treating them badly. But I'm sure even our EU loving posters would be all over that.
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They believe their best option is claiming asylum here. You’d have to ask them why they believe that.There in France, what fear and destitution do they have, unless the French are purposely treating them badly. But I'm sure even our EU loving posters would be all over that.
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The issue with France is that asylum seekers are only successful in gaining asylum/refugee status in 25% of cases, in the uk it’s 70%. Whether the bar is set too high in France or conversely too low in the UK is open to debate.There in France, what fear and destitution do they have, unless the French are purposely treating them badly. But I'm sure even our EU loving posters would be all over that.
hilts
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They believe their best option is claiming asylum here. You’d have to ask them why they believe that.
So to summarise you don't know why they do it and neither do I. Do you accept that as they are in France whatever reason they have cannot be worth the possible death of a child.
At some point we may get someone to admit this truth.
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I read the post above and it made some sense.So to summarise you don't know why they do it and neither do I. Do you accept that as they are in France whatever reason they have cannot be worth the possible death of a child.
At some point we may get someone to admit this truth.
It obviously can be worth it, because they do it and it continues on.
hilts
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The issue with France is that asylum seekers are only successful in gaining asylum/refugee status in 25% of cases, in the uk it’s 70%. Whether the bar is set too high in France or conversely too low in the UK is open to debate.
Then that can only mean that we can't be arsed putting resources into it and once here it's easier to just let them stay or France are sending away shit loads of deserving cases.
Yet again I'm sure our EU/asylum loving posters would be all over that.