What has the UK become?

[The Future’s Blue!]

They’ve gone after the international students now. Is there no end to their populist, xenophobic ravings?
International students can no longer bring any dependents with them AND they’re reviewing to 2 year work visa they currently get when completing their degrees.
Staggeringly incompetent even for this lot of charlatans, which is really saying something..
Knock on effect will be fewer places for locals, higher and higher fees, even more loss of ‘soft power’, a further diminution of our place in the world and, yet again, a loss of income/reduction in GDP.

The experiment must be concluded, in quick time.

 

[hilts]

How can the law be improved?

That would depend on ones point of view. Those who want a total open door policy would probably want stricter sanctions for countries who don't fulfil their obligations and within certain time limits.

Sane people like me:-) would prefer a system of unified processing centres where countries get to take roughly equal numbers. There should be an agreement though that emergency suspensions can be inacted.

 

[Chris in London]

That would depend on ones point of view. Those who want a total open door policy would probably want stricter sanctions for countries who don't fulfil their obligations and within certain time limits.

Sane people like me:-) would prefer a system of unified processing centres where countries get to take roughly equal numbers. There should be an agreement though that emergency suspensions can be inacted.

Those aren’t changes to the law though. They’re changes to the way the existing law is applied.

Which is fair enough, but (a) that requires wider international cooperation (which we are not especially well placed to foster) and (b) requires substantially more funding than is currently available.

The reason I asked is that the current law requires each individual case to be judged on its own merits against the criteria set out in the Vienna convention. Calling for a change in the law suggests this simple process can be easily improved and the problem is not the law, it’s the resources that the government is willing to apply towards meeting its international obligations

 

[hilts]

Those aren’t changes to the law though. They’re changes to the way the existing law is applied.

Which is fair enough, but (a) that requires wider international cooperation (which we are not especially well placed to foster) and (b) requires substantially more funding than is currently available.

The reason I asked is that the current law requires each individual case to be judged on its own merits against the criteria set out in the Vienna convention. Calling for a change in the law suggests this simple process can be easily improved and the problem is not the law, it’s the resources that the government is willing to apply towards meeting its international obligations

All I'm saying because i don't want to get into the legal details is that currently it's not working for us or other countries and most importantly genuine asylum seekers. It will need international co-operation and money. I can't see either happening.

The circus will continue as is.

 

[inbetween]

On the Rwanda scheme it seems they paid someone £3k plus airfare and board and lodgings for five years to go. Firstly, good luck to the person involved although I reckon they could have shook the Govt down for a larger up front payment and secondly, I don’t think paying and subsidising people to leave is going to be a deterrent- indeed for some it may be an incentive :)

This seems unlikely because I thought the migrants were paying traffickers thousands of £ to get here?

 

[inbetween]

Those aren’t changes to the law though. They’re changes to the way the existing law is applied.

Which is fair enough, but (a) that requires wider international cooperation (which we are not especially well placed to foster) and (b) requires substantially more funding than is currently available.

The reason I asked is that the current law requires each individual case to be judged on its own merits against the criteria set out in the Vienna convention. Calling for a change in the law suggests this simple process can be easily improved and the problem is not the law, it’s the resources that the government is willing to apply towards meeting its international obligations

These international obligations do not apply until somebody sets foot on UK soil, there is therefore no real reason to expend resources to meet obligations that do not exist.

Ask yourself why migrants are living in makeshift camps in France/Calais and not in hotels for example once they arrive here?

It's because they haven't claimed asylum in France and as far as France is concerned they do not care at that point. A humane argument would be that France should house those people, but why should they if not obligated to do so?

If we make it difficult for people to set foot on UK soil then that doesn't mean that we are somehow breaking any obligations.

 

[bluethrunthru]

The kid knifed and killed in Hainault yesterday was on his way to the school he attends and where his mum is a teacher. That same school was formerly attended by Grace O'Malley - Kumar one of the two students knifed and killed in Nottingham last summer. They need to get proper help for the kids who attend that school because in effect two services for a pupil and ex-pupil in less than a year could have a shocking effect on some of those kids minds.

 

[Bluemanc100]

What a **** of a post.
So much wrong with it.

If the cap fits…

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

If the cap fits…

The cap does fit. The **** cap.

 

[Bluemanc100]

The cap does fit. The **** cap.

LOL… Apologies for having an opinion mardarse