What is a good salary?

[halfmist]

DLA is now PIP. And if you qualify for it, you still get it even if you are the MD of a FTSE 100 company and work 70 hours a week. It is intended to meet the extra costs of being disabled, which are substantial.

As to the rest, the elephant in the room is that a major chunk of the 'welfare' bill is state pensions. What is paid to the unemployed is a relatively small sliver of the total, and if it was abolished completely tomorrow it would probably not make a massive difference to tax levels.

The real issue is to deal with the unemployable. For example, getting crack heads off their habit. Teaching people who can barely read and write the basic skills to do at least a basic job. While this is desirable and I am all for it, it would not save money in the short term but add to costs. It would be a good, long term investment though. But we don't do that stuff here. See also, rehabilitating prisoners.

Well whatever it’s called, a rise from 580000 in the mid 1990’s to over 2.2 million in 21/22 suggests to me something is not quite right. We haven’t suddenly got 4 times the number of disabled that we had 25 years ago.

 

[Kompany Car]

Interesting. Is that what is paid, or what the tax rate is?
My information was the average tax rate paid by those earning over £500k.

This is what the LSE say...

Using anonymised data from personal tax returns, we show that in 2015-16 the average rate of tax paid by people who received one million pounds in taxable income and gains was just 35 per cent: the same as someone earning £100,000. But one in four of these paid 45 per cent – close to the top rate – whilst another quarter paid less than 30 per cent overall. One in ten paid just 11 per cent—the same as someone earning £15,000. The rich, it seems, are not all in it together.

The article goes on to say...

...the government offers tax reliefs claimed to incentivise activities like entrepreneurship, without actually checking whether they achieve these aims.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Well whatever it’s called, a rise from 580000 in the mid 1990’s to over 2.2 million in 21/22 suggests to me something is not quite right. We haven’t suddenly got 4 times the number of disabled that we had 25 years ago.

Have you seen how many fat cunts there are nowadays

 

[Tuearts right boot]

The time has come to stop the ridiculous benefits bill this country has.
We as a society are obliged to look after Children,The Elderly and the Disabled physically and mentally.
If you want benefits you should be made to work for them picking up rubbish,Graffiti cleaning etc no one who is able to get out of bed should be getting anything for free.I have a mate who has 9 kids him and his wife have never claimed a penny apart from the child benefits.
Another mate thinks we are all mugs for working.There is something wrong with a system that allows this.

and I know who you and most of us has respect for.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

Having resourced and recruited in several roles, there’s not a chance in hell that I’d want someone who has been unemployed for two years with no valid reason.

We have a straightforward customer service role here. The last candidate on temp to perm lasted a day and a half. The one before a week and a half.

People won’t work when they can exist simply. Why would you?

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Why did they leave so soon

 

[MCFC Wirral]

Why did they leave so soon

Is this at me? No idea. The manager recruits and trains them.

From what I can see, it’s not social media influencing or OnlyFans so they won’t work. Barmaids last weeks in my locals. Spend more time vaping outside on their phones than serving.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

The time has come to stop the ridiculous benefits bill this country has.
We as a society are obliged to look after Children,The Elderly and the Disabled physically and mentally.
If you want benefits you should be made to work for them picking up rubbish,Graffiti cleaning etc no one who is able to get out of bed should be getting anything for free.I have a mate who has 9 kids him and his wife have never claimed a penny apart from the child benefits.
Another mate thinks we are all mugs for working.There is something wrong with a system that allows this.

13 years ago called. They want their arguments back. The Tories fixed all of this after the last time they tried to blame everything on benefits, remember? It's all the immigrants' fault now. Didn't you get the memo?

 

[oldius]

The benefits bill is mostly made from people who are working but claiming Universal Credit because their pay falls beneath the threshold. Why is anyone who works full-time falling beneath a level deemed essential to survive?

Tackling the long-term unemployed requires investment and is something that the government has shown little appetite for, despite innumerable demonising headlines in the Daily Mail. I have no issue in tackling it, but hope lies at the heart of it - hope for a brighter future - and that requires infrastructure in oft-forgotten communities.

Current estimates of tax avoided wealth in tax havens - 21 TRILLION POUNDS
Benefit fraud - 8.4bn pa.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Is this at me? No idea. The manager recruits and trains them.

From what I can see, it’s not social media influencing or OnlyFans so they won’t work. Barmaids last weeks in my locals. Spend more time vaping outside on their phones than serving.

My mum worked in a care home and still mates with staff, who say loads of the younger ones just take the piss, turn up late than have a cig outside. Call in sick every 2 weeks because weak management have no idea on managing it