What UEFA Coach attack Investigation?

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Psychedelic Casual said:
We still banging on about this? When are the candles coming out?

Who’s going to make the banners?:

“JUSTICE FOR THE INANIMATE PERSPEX SIDE DOOR OF A BUS”

“RIP BUS DOOR”

“LEST WE FORGET, 04/04/2018, BUS DOOR WE WILL REMEMBER YOU”
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If it had been the other way around, there would have been a service for the coach in one of Liverpool's Cathedrals.

A minute's silence would also have been held before the Liverpool v City match.
 
Pigeonho said:
I like it where the poster said he bets a few players would’ve cacked their pants. Really?! A few bottles hitting a bus?
Our away coach had worse than this at Bramhall Lane one year. Not some hi tech, well built machine like City travel in. A rickety old piece of shit 80’s thing. We all laughed. Nobody cacked it. I’d hazard a guess our players, the South Americans in particular, were just ‘meh’.
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It happens all over. As you say in South America it will be part of every single game and a number of our team are South American. As if they were arsed.

Bernardo Silva got off the coach at Anfield and took a picture of the cracked door with a smile on his face.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
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It happens all over. As you say in South America it will be part of every single game and a number of our team are South American. As if they were arsed.

Bernardo Silva got off the coach at Anfield and took a picture of the cracked door with a smile on his face.
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Well Bernardo Silva needs to be more selectively offended the absolute hard bastard!
 
Pigeonho said:
There are an increasing amount of fans of ours who have adopted the candle burning mentality they mock Liverpool about. Offended by absolutely everything.
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I know a few posters don’t like me saying this but we once used to be the coolest, calmest, thickest skinned fans in the country. Offended by nowt, hard lined, water of a duck’s back mentality.

You see and hear the shit our fans come out with these days about the media, the refs, the governing organisations, and this bus shit... we appear to have looked at Arsenal fans and said “we must be like them”... many in our fan base have become a bunch of soft, thin skinned, offended by everything, paranoid about corruption in everything set of fans.

It’s sad to see! It’s a shame to see!

I mean don’t get me wrong, I boo the UEFA anthem because they turn a blind eye to racism and moved the goal posts when they fined us for FFPR. So I’m not completely cold to everything. But then you have fans who are always saying “please don’t boo, it paints us in a bad light, UEFA won’t like us booing” it cements further that many of us are on a different plane of softness when it comes to how they support the club.

One thing we must do as a set of fans is toughen the fuck up. We’ve become far too soft.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I know a few posters don’t like me saying this but we once used to be the coolest, calmest, thickest skinned fans in the country. Offended by nowt, hard lined, water of a duck’s back mentality.

You see and hear the shit our fans come out with these days about the media, the refs, the governing organisations, and this bus shit... we appear to have looked at Arsenal fans and said “we must be like them”... many in our fan base have become a bunch of soft, thin skinned, offended by everything, paranoid about corruption in everything set of fans.

It’s sad to see! It’s a shame to see!

I mean don’t get me wrong, I boo the UEFA anthem because they turn a blind eye to racism and moved the goal posts when they fined us for FFPR. So I’m not completely cold to everything. But then you have fans who are always saying “please don’t boo, it paints us in a bad light, UEFA won’t like us booing” it cements further that many of us are on a different plane of softness when it comes to how they support the club.

One thing we must do as a set of fans is toughen the fuck up. We’ve become far too soft.
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No coincidence it’s started since we became relevant in terms of competing. I’ve believed for a long time that those particular fans have looked at how the successful clubs fans behave and copied it exactly. Conspiracies, being hated, being cheated by refs, being hated by opposition fans, the media etc etc... all traits displayed by fans if those successful clubs before we joined the party. What is piss poor, absolutely piss poor is their belief we are different. We, or I should say they, aren’t. It must be a go to mentality for fans of that ilk, regardless if the actual club they support.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
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It happens all over. As you say in South America it will be part of every single game and a number of our team are South American. As if they were arsed.

Bernardo Silva got off the coach at Anfield and took a picture of the cracked door with a smile on his face.
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Said at the time that all our players will have had headphones on anyway - can you imagnie Leroy without his?
All the coach 'attack' did was give us an excuse for that utterly abject 1st leg performance.
 
Franny's toilet roll said:
In a battle of wits, one or two on here seem to be unarmed. The coach was attacked, quite a few missiles and flares were thrown. The fine might just have covered the damage caused. Shattered glass windows can cause serious damage to your health ie your eyesight. Anyone suggesting otherwise is an idiot. Some of the players wouldn't have batted an eyelid, whilst one or two would have cacked themselves. For the ones that were affected, they would have carried it into the game and onto the pitch to some degree. Pep's reaction to the event was not what you would called restrained when he got off the coach was it? In any event the incident was piss poor, the crowd was incited by their manager and club media sites and the police acted negligently before and after. Most football fans would think this had an impact on the game, players will say it didn't because they don't want to succumb to intimidation. The event has highlighted the bias that exists in UEFA and Merseyside police. Fully understand the police bias after Hillsborough, but can't understand UEFA bias towards Liverpool after Heysel - unless it was trumped by bias against City. I suspect Liverpool realise they were lucky to get away with it and they won't want it repeated. It they stop it happening again it shows they could have stopped it last season, kinda supports the argument that it has an effect on the opposition
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I don’t think Liverpool or the Merseyside Police did get away with it though.

The Liverpool fans’ actions and the poor Policing of it came and bit them on their arse when it happened again in the next round against Roma. When the Police were standing with the Liverpool fans as they attacked the Roma coach, many of which stood on top of Police vans... Roma fans were walking around the other side of Anfield for an hour beating the shit out of Liverpool fans. The Police couldn’t get around to the other side of the ground because they were helping, I mean Policing, the coach attack and their vans couldn’t get out that area due to dozens standing on top of them, while the Roma fans hit one Liverpool fan so hard he was in a coma for months.

Had the Liverpool fans and Merseyside Police not acted together in making their bus greeting an event, that incident probably would not have happened. The man could have died and it would have been the fault of the Liverpool fans and Merseyside Police. It was a cummupance those fans and that Policeforce should learn a lesson from.
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
I don't share your subjective analysis. I believe the fact that soldiers have volunteered to put themselves in harm's way doesn't make them any less worthy of my admiration and respect.
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At no stage have I said I lack their admiration and respect.

They are trained to cope with such situations whereas our players aren’t.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I don’t think Liverpool or the Merseyside Police did get away with it though.

The Liverpool fans’ actions and the poor Policing of it came and bit them on their arse when it happened again in the next round against Roma. When the Police were standing with the Liverpool fans as they attacked the Roma coach, many of which stood on top of Police vans... Roma fans were walking around the other side of Anfield for an hour beating the shit out of Liverpool fans. The Police couldn’t get around to the other side of the ground because they were helping, I mean Policing, the coach attack and their vans couldn’t get out that area due to dozens standing on top of them, while the Roma fans hit one Liverpool fan so hard he was in a coma for months.

Had the Liverpool fans and Merseyside Police not acted together in making their bus greeting an event, that incident probably would not have happened. The man could have died and it would have been the fault of the Liverpool fans and Merseyside Police. It was a cummupance those fans and that Policeforce should learn a lesson from.
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But they won't because they accept no responsibility for what happened with the fan ending up in a coma, that's where the frustration lies.
 
Pigeonho said:
No coincidence it’s started since we became relevant in terms of competing. I’ve believed for a long time that those particular fans have looked at how the successful clubs fans behave and copied it exactly. Conspiracies, being hated, being cheated by refs, being hated by opposition fans, the media etc etc... all traits displayed by fans if those successful clubs before we joined the party. What is piss poor, absolutely piss poor is their belief we are different. We, or I should say they, aren’t. It must be a go to mentality for fans of that ilk, regardless if the actual club they support.
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Fuckin he'll, can you write a few positive sentences at some point in your life. ?
 
If you mention the coach attack on any of the BBC Sport comments sections they remove your comment for breaking their CofC , made three articulate references pointing out the lack of action or arrests regarding the incident and they all got binned , it s a bloody stitch up , i tell yer.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Get some perspective.

I understand your offence at what happened, because it was egregiously disrespectful - but there was never any realistic danger of anyone coming to any significant harm. Lads who are younger than their early twenties face far worse fear and danger on a daily basis 'defending' this country . They are the real heroes.

And no need to be abusive. This is the internet. We are presently in separate locations so you can't physically attack me and I'm considerably smarter than you. What do you think the outcome of any skirmish is going to be? Choose your battles.
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Having had experience of the coach / bus business as an owner fleet operator , the fact that lit flares were going under the coach this would cause a risk of a fuelline igniting so i would say the players and staff on the team bus were put in danger because of the lack of action from the Merseyside Police , but i agree with your comment it was a show of disrespect that angers our support . Despite several communications with Merseyside Police and their joke Freedom of Information dept, this incident is just being swept under the carpet, Merseyside Police havent got the balls to take on any wrong doings the Dippers feral supporters have or will do in the future , because of a previous Police investigation from 30 years ago , its never Liverpool supporters fault.
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
It’ll be tough for them if they draw us again, because the desperation to show off what they perceive to be their unique European pedigree (that’s 1 European Cup in 35 years to the rest of us), and particularly against a bunch of arrivistes like City, via puerile traditions such as mobbing the away coach like a bunch of Galatasaray wannabes, will be all consuming. Remember, they are a club devoid of irony and filled with self-reverence. All their songs are about their “specialness” and their past glories - self deprecation in the form of “we never win at home and we never win away” type ditties, is conspicuous by its complete absence - and I think if afforded the chance to play the European “royalty” card again, they’ll be unable to resist another spot of bottle throwing
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I very much agree - they will not be able to resist the opportunity to (re)-educate us on what European football is all about.

The club will play lip-service to it in my opinion.......
 
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