We need to win a trophy really, and qualification from the group stage of the Champion's League is a must, a quarter final appearance would be an acceptable step in the right direction. We have to realise that, until we can make ourselves a top pot side for the champion's league we will always run the risk of meeting a very good side in our group (it will be one from Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, AC Milan and Porto this season) and therefore struggling to win the group. That leaves us open to a tough second round tie, so if we manage to get past that stage we've done really well. Retaining our Premiership title will really indicate we've arrived, when Chelsea did it they were really accepted as one of England's top clubs.