What's this 4-2-2-2 Business then?

The Iceman Cometh said:
My mrs asks why we dont try a 10 - 1 formation.

I don't take to the games.

10-1 formation ? you mean 10 men in goal ? We won't be able to score goals like that. We'll end up relegated.

A 10 formation is possible but difficult to play. Ajax played this formation from 1969 to 1973. Dutch natioal team also used it in 1974 worldcup.

holland.jpg


It's a chaos type of football where any player can move into any position.
 
Some great analysis Badman!

I'm kinda feeling that we are basically going to see the same problem next season that we have seen this season, basically

1) not putting enough pressure on opposition penalty boxes
2) when teams press our 2x CM it usually ends in defeat
3) unable to get the ball forward quick enough with tempo
4) not many goal attempts per game
5) teams putting 10 players in box and hitting us on the counter

I hate ManU but they bully the lesser teams by playing with width and pace on the wing and stretching teams, they lose possession a lot but they roll teas over. We should be able to mix it up against these lesser teams
 
What will happen from next season is Txiki's full affect over all playing squads, with the EDS playing the exact same systems/ formations etc.. as the first team.

I still believe we will play 4-3-3 next season.
 
badman said:
The Iceman Cometh said:
My mrs asks why we dont try a 10 - 1 formation.

I don't take to the games.

10-1 formation ? you mean 10 men in goal ? We won't be able to score goals like that. We'll end up relegated.

A 10 formation is possible but difficult to play. Ajax played this formation from 1969 to 1973. Dutch natioal team also used it in 1974 worldcup.

holland.jpg


It's a chaos type of football where any player can move into any position.

Yep 10-1, although I think she meant 10 forwards!
Nice drawing!
 
i dont have the obsession with formations that is popular on BM, probably because i admired the total football of the Dutch so much.
Top players will see opportunity and danger and react accordingly, so we just need the right players to supplement those we already have that fit the bill, about six at a rough guess
 
badman said:
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
alib said:
We need more width not to play even narrower

Pace and I mean rapid speed is the key to this, our squad needs an overhaul Barry, and Garcia are just too slow, navas, bale, lennon, thats the type of speed required and we just don't have that at the moment. I'm sure Pelligrini will know how to rectify it I am just getting the embers smouldering again by what lies in store.

the owners want man city to play the type of football played by barcelona. attractive football not the ugly kind played by united. Chelsea used to play ugly football and have changed a bit.

obviously by playing direct football you increase your chances of winning the premierleague , but for the guys at the top it's not only about winning, it's also about playing the kind of football that people want to watch.
Watch Bayern, they have proved width and pace can be the most effective tactic as well as the most entertaining.
 
Matt the Giant said:
From the man himself:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qDfThaxmTU[/youtube]

He obviously sees the 4-5-1 as a defensive formation, which he rarely used against much stronger sides.

Just remember the way Manuel will play the team, is a way which will have to be decided by the club, as in Txiki primarily. A system to be implemented at all levels, from senior side down to toddler, and even our dear sibling in Ne York.

So will it be Txiki's 4-3-3 or will Pellegreni be the architect of the Manchester City way of playing football.
I think the club will be more likely to employ a common philosophy, which is based around attractive, exciting, ball-retention football. The system is actually a more flexible idea, whichever should be used by the manager dependant on the situation.

Personally I don't think Txiki should dictate, nor fixate ourselves upon a single formation. Mentality, philosophy, yes. System-wise, no.
 
Akira said:
Matt the Giant said:
From the man himself:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qDfThaxmTU[/youtube]

He obviously sees the 4-5-1 as a defensive formation, which he rarely used against much stronger sides.

Just remember the way Manuel will play the team, is a way which will have to be decided by the club, as in Txiki primarily. A system to be implemented at all levels, from senior side down to toddler, and even our dear sibling in Ne York.

So will it be Txiki's 4-3-3 or will Pellegreni be the architect of the Manchester City way of playing football.
I think the club will be more likely to employ a common philosophy, which is based around attractive, exciting, ball-retention football. The system is actually a more flexible idea, whichever should be used by the manager dependant on the situation.

Personally I don't think Txiki should dictate, nor fixate ourselves upon a single formation. Mentality, philosophy, yes. System-wise, no.


The money our owner is spending on the Academy suggests a set philosophy/style will be implemented. Whether that's a 4-3-3 or not is of course impossible to know.
I don't for a second believe Txiki is naive enough to say we are going to play like Barcelona. We will develop our own style, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's one of the reasons MP is brought in, to function as a philosophy architect.
 

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